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GZERO World with Ian Bremmer

How discontent with globalization has fueled authoritarian "strongmen"

GZERO World with Ian Bremmer

GZERO Media

Politics, News, Foreign Policy, News Commentary, Government, Geopolitics, International Relations, Ian Bremmer, Trump, Global Economy, Gzero World

4.7830 Ratings

🗓️ 11 June 2022

⏱️ 20 minutes

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Summary

As inflation, including as seen in rising food and commodity prices, destabilize global systems, strong leadership will appeal to more people. Part of the pushback against globalization has been led by autocrats who reject ideas like free trade and the liberal international order. Globalization is seen to equate losing control. But the world today remains more interconnected than ever. So, do those expressing discontent want less globalization, or rather a version that fits their narrative? And, after two years of unrelenting pandemic, continued rise in global temperatures, and a war in Ukraine that is not ending, has globalization benefited the world? On the GZERO World Podcast, Ian Bremmer speaks to Gideon Rachman, chief foreign affairs columnist for the Financial Times, who knows a thing or two about the likes of Vladimir Putin, Xi Jinping, or Donald Trump, and has just written a book about strongmen. Rachman explains why resentment at minorities motivates both autocrats and their supporters, why strongmen use emotions to justify their nationalism and protectionism, and why Narendra Modi is the least bad of them right now.

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0:00.0

A lot of these strong man appeals are sort of emotionally linked issues. So globalization and migration are not exactly the same thing, but they're related and they're to do with a sense of loss of control of the nation that we had this nation that kind of to some extent controlled its own destiny. And now it's part of this big globalized economy and jobs are being shipped away and disappearing

0:22.2

and our borders are crumbling.

0:24.1

That's sort of emotionally it is of a piece.

0:28.4

Hello and welcome to the G0 World podcast.

0:32.2

This is where you'll find extended versions of my interviews on public television.

0:36.7

I'm Ian Bremmer.

0:37.2

And on today's show is globalization that economic, social, and political

0:41.9

web that's connected the world for decades on the way out?

0:46.2

And is the era of the strongman leader here to stay?

0:50.0

After two years of an ever-evolving pandemic and months into a war in Ukraine that shows

0:55.1

no sign of stopping, the global order feels more fragmented than ever.

1:00.3

But is it?

1:01.3

I'm joined by the Financial Times, Gideon Rockman, who just wrote a book on the world's

1:06.2

strong men.

1:07.4

Let's do this.

1:14.2

The men. Let's do this. The G0 World podcast is brought to you by our founding sponsor, First Republic.

1:19.6

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1:24.4

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1:28.9

Visit firstrepublic.com to learn more.

1:32.1

The GZero World podcast is also brought to you by Foreign Policy.

1:36.5

The next time you order some calamari, stop for a minute and think, where does this

1:41.4

actually come from?

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