We talked about appetite.

Let's talk.

Well, do you guys want to, we could discuss cognition or androgens?

Like, should we, tell us, Steve, what have you discovered about progesterone being in?

Because let's just tell the audience the background, why we want to discuss this.

So Derek and Steve and I have been following androgen literature for years and years.

And, you know, historically, we're only told about estrogen being a negative feedback indicator to the brain

in the brain then signals to your balls to produce testosterone and the testosterone converts to

estrogen and then the estrogen signals back to your brain to tell you to stop producing so much

testosterone but um actually the first time we talked about it together was Steve brought it up to me

one of the first episodes before Derek joined, which was he was saying, you know, how

Trambleon and these kind of things shut people off even more. And Steve was saying it's probably

because of, you were saying it was the androgenic nature. And I was thinking it's a progesterine,

a progesterone, yeah basically a combination of both we

yeah we mentioned both of them but at the time we didn't really know much about it so we looked into it

so steve why don't you tell our audience a little bit about progesterone how that's a negative feedback

saying so progesterone on supervisological concentrations or anything that's agonized is the

progesterone receptor can also have a negative feedback on

your luteinizing hormone and follicle stimulating hormone production.

Of course, you'll increase collagen synthesis through an extra pathway.

But, you know, since the clearance time is so much longer with the trembleone and the nandrolone

and the mint, you get, you know, HPTA suppression for for much longer with the trembleone and the nandrolone and the mint you get you know hbts

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