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🗓️ 11 May 2025
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“Donald Trump is looming so large in the Canadian consciousness right now,” says Brian Lee Crowley.
“And I have seen a lot of my compatriots running around like chickens with their heads cut off, saying, ‘Oh my God, Donald Trump is a mad man. You can’t understand what he’s doing. There’s no rhyme or reason to it.’ And I looked at what Donald Trump was doing, and I thought, ‘Okay, I don’t have to like it. That’s a separate question. But if the question is, ’Can I understand it?' The answer is yes.”
Crowley is the founder and managing director of the Macdonald-Laurier Institute, a Canadian think tank whose work is often cited by the Canadian Parliament.
“What exactly is the difference between Canada and America, or Canadians and Americans? It’s not that it’s difficult to answer because there aren’t differences. It’s difficult to answer because the differences are subtle and hard to express,” says Crowley.
“Remember that America broke away through a violent revolution from the crown and the United Kingdom—from Great Britain. Canadians never experienced that.”
In this episode, we dive into the recent election in Canada, Trump’s comments about Canada as America’s 51st state, and what the future of United States–Canada relations may look like.
“Canada exports 50 percent of everything made in the private sector, and the vast bulk of that, like 90 percent, goes to the United States. But [in] the United States, by contrast, foreign trade, or international trade, only represents barely 25 percent of the amount of the American economy, and that’s diversified across all of its trade partners. So, while for Canada, the relationship with the United States is existential, for America, the relationship with Canada is convenient, nice—not existential.”
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0:00.0 | Donald Trump is looming so large in the Canadian consciousness right now. |
0:04.0 | I have seen a lot of my compatriots, you know, running around like chickens with their heads cut off, |
0:10.0 | saying, oh my God, Donald Trump is a madman. You can't understand what he's doing. There's no rhyme to reason to it. |
0:16.0 | I looked at what Donald Trump was doing and I thought, okay, I don't have to like it. But if the question is, can I understand it, the answer is yes. |
0:23.6 | Brian Lee Crowley is the founder and managing director of the MacDonald Lurier Institute, |
0:28.6 | a major Canadian think tank whose work is often cited by the Canadian Parliament. |
0:33.6 | What exactly is the difference between Canada and America? It's not that it's difficult to answer because there aren't differences. |
0:40.3 | It's difficult to answer because the differences are subtle and hard to express. |
0:44.3 | In this episode, we dive into the recent election in Canada, |
0:47.3 | Trump's comments about Canada as America's 51st state, |
0:51.3 | and what the future of US-Canada relations may look like. |
0:54.8 | Canada exports 50% of everything made in the private sector, and the vast bulk of that, like 90% |
1:00.8 | goes to the United States. By contrast, you know, foreign trade or international trade only |
1:06.1 | represents barely 25% of the American economy. So while for Canada, the relationship with the United States is existential, |
1:15.8 | for America, the relationship with Canada is convenient, nice, not existential. |
1:23.3 | This is American Thought Leaders, and I'm Yanya Kellogg. |
1:28.2 | Brian Lee Crowley, such a pleasure to have you on American Thought Leaders and I'm Yanya Kellogg. Brian McRowley, such a pleasure to have you on American Thought Leaders. |
1:32.0 | Jan, thanks so much for having me. |
1:33.5 | I suppose I should call it Canadian Thought Leaders. |
1:36.0 | Well, that'd be a good choice. |
1:38.2 | But so what happened with the Canadian election and what did U.S. President |
1:43.2 | Donald Trump have to do with it? |
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