I'm Gilbert Cruz, editor of the New York Times Book Review, and this is the Book Review

podcast.

So sometimes, when I'm not reading books, which, to be clear, I'm doing all the time, but

sometimes when I'm not reading, occasionally, I will watch a movie.

And occasionally, when I do watch a movie, it'll be a superhero movie.

Once Iron Man launched the Marvel Cinematic Universe in 2008, I've seen 25 of the 32

movies released by Marvel Studios.

And now, I have a kid in the house.

I've seen some of them multiple times.

On this week's episode, I speak with Joanna Robinson and Dave Gonzalez, two of the authors,

along with Gavin Edwards, of the new book, MCU, The Rain of Marvel Studios.

In that book, they document the rise of Marvel from an indie studio to a behemoth that

has changed modern moviemaking.

Let's turn to that conversation now.

Joanna and Dave, welcome to the Book Review podcast.

Thanks for having us.

Yeah, thank you so much.

So you write by the end of 2022, when we finished writing this book, Marvel had made 30

feature films with a worldwide gross of over 26 billion dollars, considered as a whole

that output was easily the most successful film series of all time.

Two movies have since been released, but the point remains, the biggest series of all

times.

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