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The Two Matts

How did Diane Abbott derail Keir Starmer?

The Two Matts

The New World

Politics, Government, News Commentary, News

4.2577 Ratings

🗓️ 31 May 2024

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

How did Keir Starmer allow the row over Diane Abbott swamp the early days of his election campaign? What is the upside? And had Abbott been mistreated to the point where the Labour leadership looks petty and vindictive? The Matts weigh in on the big campaign trail talking point. Also - in part two - the brilliant Alan Edwards, author of I Was There, tells all about life with Bowie, The Stones, The Spice Girls … and a whole A-Z of rock’s rich and famous. It’s an absolute treat of an interview… enjoy!

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journalism. Hello, I'm Matt Kelly. I'm Matt Dan Cona. And this is the two mats for the weekending

1:01.5

Friday the 31st of May, where we all have hay fever. We all have hay fever. Why have you got

1:08.2

hay fever, Matt? Because I've just got back from the Hayleybury Festival. It was groovy. You did really, you did an amazing interview with

1:14.6

Michael Heseltine. I did what I interviewed Michael Heseltine and Sebco and we talked about

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Trump and I did my Trump impression which is getting I'm worried about but

1:22.7

because I shouldn't be encouraged but I had a great time.

1:27.5

And you can read all about it in the new European coming soon, aren't you? Yes, you certainly because I shouldn't be encouraged, but I had a great time. Brilliant.

1:28.0

And you can read all about it in the New European coming soon, aren't you?

1:31.1

Yes, you certainly can.

1:32.2

But what have we got on this week?

1:33.5

Well, this week we're wondering why Kirstama has mishandled the Diane Abbott fiasco as badly as he has,

1:40.3

and asking some questions about that.

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