How did celebrity rumors spread before social media?
NO SUCH THING
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4.6 • 609 Ratings
🗓️ 5 November 2025
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
For this week’s episode, we collaborated with Ryan Broderick and Grant Irving from Panic World to go deep on three middle school rumors. We’ll investigate the false rumor that Ciara announced she was intersex, the “jenkem” panic of the 90s, and the rumor that Marilyn Manson had a rib removed so that he could…you know.
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| 0:00.0 | I'm Annie. |
| 0:00.8 | I'm Noah. |
| 0:01.5 | And this is Devin, and this is No Such Thing, |
| 0:03.7 | the show will resettle our dumb arguments and yours by actually doing the research. |
| 0:08.2 | On today's episode, how did we all hear that? |
| 0:12.3 | Sierra Rumor. |
| 0:15.6 | There's no such thing. |
| 0:17.6 | No such thing. |
| 0:20.5 | No such thing. No such thing. No such thing. |
| 0:23.5 | No such thing. No such thing. No such thing. |
| 0:31.9 | All right. So today's episode is actually a collaboration with our friends over at Panic World, so we'd be joined by |
| 0:38.9 | Ryan and his producer Grant. It is about middle school conspiracy theories and rumors. |
| 0:46.5 | We're going to be talking about a time long, long ago, so there's going to be some language |
| 0:50.7 | that is not up to date that we're going to be referencing. For example, throughout |
| 0:55.5 | this episode, we're going to use the term hermathodyte, which we're using at the time to refer |
| 0:59.7 | to intersex people, which if you do not know, are people who have sexual anatomy or reproductive |
| 1:07.4 | organs or chromosome patterns that do not align with what we assume to be typical |
| 1:13.5 | definitions for male or female. |
| 1:16.3 | We're also going to be talking about this idea of people pretending to be a gender that they are |
| 1:23.3 | not. |
| 1:23.7 | Obviously, this is very outdated language, and we know that trans people are not pretending to be something that they're not. Obviously, this is very outdated language, and we know that trans people are not pretending |
| 1:29.2 | to be something that they're not. I would like to say that that's outdated, but as we |
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