I'm Dave Rubin and joining me today is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute, a Wall

Street Journal columnist and author of the upcoming book Maverick, a biography of Thomas

Sol, Jason Riley. Welcome to the Rubin Report.

Thanks for having me.

I am glad to have you here. I thought this would be the right week to have you on, not

only because the doc is coming out, but obviously Monday was MLK Day. There's a lot going on

in the world and I've been following what you do and what the Manhattan Institute does

for quite some time. So I'm looking forward to the chat for the people that don't have

any idea who you are, who is Jason Riley and why is he on the Rubin Report?

Well, I'm a journalist. I've been affiliated with the Wall Street Journal for about a quarter

century now and I write a political column for them, a weekly column, mostly about urban

issues, crime, immigration, race, economics and so forth. And I'm also like you a big fan

of Thomas Sol. And I've written a few books over the years and my most recent one is a

biography of Thomas Sol, which is being published right around the same time, that a documentary

film on his life that I narrate has also been released.

Yeah, so the book is coming out actually on May 25th and we'll put the pre-order link

below. The doc is actually coming out this weekend on some public TV stations and then streaming

services and all that and stuff. And obviously, I know that you know how much Thomas Sol

has affected me and I'm actually honored to be in the doc and you use some of the footage

from our interview that we did up in Stanford. But you know, you just hit on a bunch of

the hot topics stuff of the day and as we're taping this today, it is Joe Biden's inauguration.

But you mentioned you talk about crime, immigration, urban issues, things like that. And as a Wall

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