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How DeepSeek kicked off a new AI race 1/29/25

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CNBC

Disruptors, Investing, Faang, Technology, Business, Management, Cnbc, Tech

4.856 Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2025

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

Tech stocks mixed today as the AI trade tries to adjust to a new normal post-DeepSeek. We look at why the AI race will never be the same, and why OpenAI is accusing DeepSeek of training off their models.

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0:00.0

Nvidia shares falling again today as the AI trade looks for some new equilibrium following the release of Deep Seek.

0:05.9

As comes as Alibaba now is touting their new AI model, which it claims surpasses Deep Seek V3.

0:12.8

Adir DeBos of course has more on this rapidly changing AI race. Now we got Baba to play with Dee.

0:18.6

You know, rapidly might be an understatement. And really, this is

0:21.9

the takeaway. In the AI arms race, there are before and after moments. DeepSeek created one,

0:26.9

not unlike OpenAI's chat GPT moment a few years ago, a breakthrough so significant, it redraws

0:32.5

the battle lines. Now, complaints from Microsoft and OpenAI and President Trump's AI SAR, David Sacks, accusing

0:38.6

DeepSeek of using Open AI outputs, it's just an attempt that won't go anywhere to put

0:43.1

the cat back in the bag.

0:44.9

Because just like OpenAI trained ChatGBTGPT on Internet data, Deepseek trained its model

0:50.2

on updated generative AI internet data.

0:53.5

It copied the playbook, but far more efficiently,

0:56.1

and then it open sourced it. The new buzzword that Wall Street should take note of is distillation,

1:01.8

a way to shrink a big AI model into a faster, smaller one while keeping what it learned.

1:07.4

Here's what Databricks CEO, Ali Godzi, told me earlier this week.

1:12.3

So we're going to just see distillation happening left and right. It's already happening.

1:16.1

Like there's so many versions of DeepSeek that have been reproduced and redone just in the last

1:21.5

week as we speak. So this distillation is going to just create so much competition at the

1:27.3

LLM or the AI layer.

1:29.7

And so Alibaba's new Kwen model, which it claims surpasses deepseeks V3, that's just part of a new frenzy post deep seek.

1:38.2

One that meta, the American open source leader, is no doubt already engaged in.

1:43.3

Here's perplexity CEO, Arvin Srinivasa, a few weeks ago.

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