What has been something that you discovered taking over the FDA and you had to call the president and say,

you're not going to believe what I've uncovered?

I found out that in the previous administration, they had approved cancer patients in the United States having their cells sent to China

to have Chinese labs gene edit the cells of Americans.

The last commissioner, I think his number

one stated goal was fighting misinformation. I don't even know what he was talking about.

Probably people like me. What if the FDA has been quietly operating with its hands tied until now?

What if those safe and effective labels that you trusted were more political than scientific?

Today's guest walked into the chaos of that agency and decided to rewire it from the inside.

Dr. Marty McCarrie is the newly confirmed commissioner of the Food and Drug Administration,

a surgical oncologist and public health researcher with over 300 peer-reviewed publications

and three New York Times best-selling books, including Blind Spots, which is my favorite.

Before the FDA, he oversaw novel surgical programs,

co-developed the Global Surgical Safety Checklist,

and held tenured roles at Johns Hopkins.

In this episode, we pull back the curtain

on what Dr. McCarrie discovered

when he walked into the FDA,

what's gotten him angry, why safe and effective

has often been more a slogan than science. The hidden conflicts,

the internal pressure, and when dissent was punished, what he and President Trump and

RFK Jr. are doing to overhaul regulatory practice, rethink food, drugs, vaccines, and transparency,

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