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On the Media

How Debate Took Over the Internet. Plus, a Case for Confronting the Past.

On the Media

WNYC Studios

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4.68.7K Ratings

🗓️ 2 January 2026

⏱️ 50 minutes

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0:00.0

If you can create these viral clips of people saying extremely shocking things, you will succeed.

0:07.5

Social media runneth over with vicious political debates that make bank. But at what cost?

0:14.1

From WNYC in New York, this is on the media. I'm Brooke Gladstone. And I'm Michael O'Nger. The YouTube

0:20.1

channel Jubilee says it wants to bridge political divides, but its format looks more like a firing squad.

0:27.7

If Jubilee had come to me and said, you'll be debating one guy who says he's a fascist and another guy who tells you to get out of the country.

0:33.8

I'd have said, I'll pass, thanks. I'm washing my hair.

0:36.5

Plus, you can't rise above what you can't face. So deal with it.

0:41.2

I'm not interested in talking about these things because I want to punish America.

0:45.2

I want to liberate us. There's thriving democracy waiting for us, but we can't get there

0:50.2

if we don't have the courage to be honest about the things that have held respect.

0:54.6

It's all coming up after this.

1:01.5

From WNYC in New York, this is on the media.

1:04.8

I'm Brooke Gladstone.

1:06.1

And I'm Michael Onger.

1:07.3

Towards the end of last year, several legacy media shops vowed to invest in good old

1:12.8

healthy debate.

1:14.6

Seasman launched a new show called Ceasefire.

1:18.2

In a town where partisan fighting prevails, one table, two leaders, one goal to find common ground.

1:26.7

Newly in charge at CBS, Barry Weiss also pledged to nurture dialogue.

1:32.2

I can make one promise to you, and it's this.

1:35.3

You will not agree with everything you hear tonight or in any of these other broadcasts.

1:40.3

And that is exactly the point, because the premise of a democracy is that we persuade each other with words and not violence.

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