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Edge of Sports

How De La Soul Changed Hip Hop And Changed The World

Edge of Sports

Dave Zirin / The Nation

News, Sports News, History, Politics, Sports

4.8619 Ratings

🗓️ 6 May 2026

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

This week, we talk to Professor Austin McCoy about his incredible new book, Living in a D.A.I.S.Y. Age, which explores the seminal rap trio De La Soul. We talk about the group, its records from Three Feet High and Rising to their most recent release last November. We talk about the enduring importance of jazz in hip-hop, and a lot more!

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Edge of Sports Podcast, brought to you by the Nation magazine. I'm Dave Ziron. We've got a great show for you this week. Look, usually on this pod we talk about the intersection of sports and politics.

0:22.0

Not today. We are talking, it's one of the great things about having my own podcast, y'all.

0:27.0

We're talking about probably my favorite musical group, not my favorite hip-hop group,

0:31.9

my favorite musical group, and that is De La Sol, as in De La Sol is of the soul. Now, why are we talking about De La Soul?

0:39.3

Because there is a new book out that I am so into.

0:42.3

It's called Living in a Daisy Age, the music, culture, and world De La Soul made.

0:50.3

And I've got the author of it right here.

0:52.3

His name is Professor Austin McCoy.

0:55.5

He's an assistant prof of U.S. and African American history at West Virginia University.

1:00.4

In addition to hip-hop culture, Austin McCoy's research also focuses on labor, social movements,

1:05.7

and political activism.

1:07.6

His writings about politics and culture have appeared in The Washington Post, CNN, The Baffler.

1:13.1

So excited to speak to him.

1:16.0

Let's take a quick break.

1:17.1

Listen to a little bit of De La Sol right here, a little bit of a song from their new album.

1:21.0

It's called Run It Back.

1:22.5

And then we're going to jump right in to the man himself, Austin McCoy.

1:27.2

So excited to speak to him.

1:43.0

The book is living in a daisy age, the change the regime and the lean that we lay with the words that we spray with a way that we teach y'all to act. Run it back. With the paws with the dice and the songs that we slice with a plate. The book is living in a daisy age, the music culture and world de la

1:47.8

soul made. The author is Austin McCoy. Thank you, Professor McCoy, for joining us here on the

1:53.9

pod.

1:54.9

Yeah, thanks Dave for having me. This is honor.

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