How "dark defaults" could cost you
The Indicator from Planet Money
NPR
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🗓️ 22 November 2023
⏱️ 10 minutes
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Summary
But what if that pesky, pre-checked box cost you thousands of dollars?
On today's show, how some political campaigns used 'dark defaults' to raise millions of dollars from unsuspecting donors.
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| 0:00.0 | NPR. Back in the fall of 2020, Ron Majuri wanted to donate some of his money to |
| 0:16.1 | political campaigns. Like it or not he says, campaigns run on cash. They need |
| 0:21.6 | money in order to get the message out and to drive votes. |
| 0:26.3 | Ron lives in Florida, he's an entrepreneur and a Republican. |
| 0:29.8 | So he went online and found the typical calls to action. |
| 0:33.6 | Donate, we have to win, we have to save the country, you know, the whole, the whole |
| 0:38.0 | schmeal. |
| 0:39.1 | And Ron remembers donating a few thousand bucks in one-off contributions to a few political campaigns. |
| 0:45.0 | But later on he got an alert from his credit card company saying that these campaigns wanted to charge him more, |
| 0:51.0 | around $20,000 more. |
| 0:54.0 | I don't want to say I was upset, |
| 0:55.8 | but I was definitely concerned |
| 0:59.6 | that they could do that so easily. |
| 1:03.6 | Pretty philosophical for $20,000 he's not expecting. |
| 1:06.6 | Oh, Schmeal. |
| 1:10.6 | This is the indicator for Planet Money. |
| 1:12.0 | I'm Adrian Ma. |
| 1:13.0 | And I'm Darren Woods. A recent study finds that some political campaigns have raised millions of dollars from people who didn't even intend to donate that money. |
| 1:22.0 | It's all thanks to a very subtle design tweak. It's |
| 1:25.4 | something that we run into all the time and everyday life. So today on the show |
| 1:29.2 | we'll talk to the researchers behind that study about the power of something they call dark defaults. |
| 1:35.0 | And we'll learn what Ron did about that surprise 20 grand credit card charge. |
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