How Dame Ellen MacArthur is Fuelling Purpose for Young Cancer Survivors (E413)
The High Performance Podcast
High Performance
4.6 • 4.8K Ratings
🗓️ 29 May 2026
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
What happens when the medical system tells you you’re clear, but the hardest part of your recovery is actually just beginning? In this special roundtable episode, brought to you in partnership with Postcode Lottery, we explore the unseen side of living through and beyond cancer.
Joining Jake in the studio are legendary solo sailor Dame Ellen MacArthur, Frank Fletcher (CEO of the Ellen MacArthur Cancer Trust), and Josh Rands, a young survivor who rebuilt his life after a rare cancer diagnosis at just 19. Together, they share a raw, open conversation about why true bravery isn't always something you choose, the reality of life when treatment structures suddenly fall away, and how reclaiming independence on the open sea can give young people their futures back.
It’s a powerful look at resilience, the daily grind of running a purpose-driven charity, and why finding a genuine sense of belonging is often the ultimate medicine.
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| 0:00.0 | We talk a lot on high performance about adversity, about what it takes to come back from the lowest moments of your life. |
| 0:05.4 | Well, today's conversation is about a different kind of adversity. Young people who face illness, |
| 0:09.7 | identity and recovery all at once at the exact moment they should be stepping into life. My guest |
| 0:15.4 | today are the legendary sailor, Dame Ellen MacArthur, Frank Fletcher, CEO of Ella MacArthur Cancer Trust, and Josh Rans, |
| 0:22.6 | who's been helped by their charity. Between them, they've lived every side of the story, |
| 0:26.8 | and they know what it means to build something that genuinely serves other people. |
| 0:30.5 | And we're here talking about the support that's been possible, thanks to players of Postcode |
| 0:34.5 | Lottery. |
| 0:36.3 | I think maybe we should just begin with each of you giving us maybe 20 seconds about yourselves |
| 0:41.1 | and why you find yourselves sitting in the high performance studio today. |
| 0:45.5 | My professional life was sailing, and through sailing, I met a French charity that took young |
| 0:50.7 | people sailing and recover free from cancer and leukemia. |
| 0:53.8 | And that day will stay with me for the rest of my life |
| 0:56.7 | because it had such a profound effect on me. |
| 0:59.3 | And as a result of that, I created the Elemer Carter Trust. |
| 1:01.9 | Frank. |
| 1:03.2 | So I've worked with young people in the outdoors for almost all of my working life. |
| 1:07.5 | And then I knew Ellen many, many years ago, |
| 1:12.8 | before Ellen went around the world. |
| 1:17.0 | And then we talked about the Ellen McAffe Cancer Trust and I got involved. |
| 1:23.3 | And it's been one of the greatest things in my life to be involved in this amazing organisation. |
| 1:24.8 | So yeah, I'm incredibly lucky. |
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