Welcome to the commentary magazine Daily Podcast.

Today is Monday August 1st, 2022. I'm John Puthworts, the editor of Commentary

Magazine with me as always. Executive editor Abe Greenwald Hyade.

Hi John. Associate editor and author of the Rise of the New Puritans,

Noah Rothman Hynoah. Hi John. And Christine Rosen is out this week joining us today,

tech commentary columnist, magazine editing veteran, and all around great guy with his own podcast.

The name of which as always when I start saying someone else is another podcast, I can't remember

their name. We have the most generic podcast name you could possibly have, right? Your commentary

magazine podcast, it's like lame, it's like just there to talk to say commentary magazine.

But Jimmy actually have an interestingly named podcast. So of course, I can't remember.

Yeah, it's it's how do we fix it? I'm the co-host. But we discovered after we launched it that,

of course, if you Google, how do we fix it? You get a lot of plumbing repair and other things.

Or will people here that I used to be editor of Program Mechanics, they assume this is about how to fix

your car system or something? Yeah, right. Okay, so how do we fix it? Jim Megs. James Bumeggs,

tech commentary columnist, hi Jim, great to be back. Okay, so Jim as our resident

journalistic fact finding expert on the pandemic from the outside of the pandemic.

Actually, one thing I wanted to mention, I'm calling an audible because we didn't mention this

beforehand. So Jim, your best writing has been on the lab leak hypothesis about the origins of

COVID and the efforts to suppress it and the citizen investigations that that kept the idea

alive. And once again, the science community has struck back with two papers in science, claiming a

natural claiming that the study of studies that they've done returns us to the natural origin,

not, excuse me, not the natural origins theory of the virus's creation or whatever, but the idea

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