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One of the cas workers I spoke to really described this in a way that just made my heart hurt where she was saying the decisions that these caseworkers were having to make to triage the sheer number of calls coming into their offices.

And when I say uneven burden, I really do mean it.

Some offices were getting thousands of calls.

Their whole phone lines were just flooded

with people with these similar stories saying,

you know, my passport's at the embassy

and the embassy is destroying papers.

I'm at the gate of the airport

and I don't know what to do.

So that means these caseworkers are having to make these decisions on the fly of saying,

well, who has the greatest chance of getting out?

Who's at the greatest risk if I can't get them out.

It's talking about prioritizing women and children

talking about prioritizing pregnant women

over other people.

And that's not a decision you think

you're gonna sign up to have to make when you take a job as a

congressional staffer and like the impact of having to make those decisions is something that

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