An historic gathering, the first ever at the United Nations on Monday, commemorated al-Nakba,

which means the catastrophe, and marked the beginning of the apartheid state of Israel,

and the massacre and displacement of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian people from their homes.

We need a new system. We need a new society.

We need to demand that which may have sounded impossible even a few weeks ago,

but is not only realizable, but an imperative necessity. Welcome to this week's episode of The Real Story on the Socialist Program.

I'm your host, Brian Becker.

Today we're talking to Dr. Nasia Kazi.

She is a professor of anthropology at Stockton University,

the author of the book Islamophobia, race, and global politics, which was just updated and re-released.

Dr. Kazi, welcome back to the Socialist Program.

Thank you so much for having me.

Well, in the last days, Nakba, the catastrophe, has been marked by demonstrations, rallies,

activities all around the world, not just in the Middle East, not just in Palestine.

But even in Washington, D.C., I was at a protest right outside the White House, mainly

young Palestinians, people whose grandparents

would have been the ones driven from their historic ancestral homes. They were there. And you can see

that the resistance of the Palestinian people is in fact what basically has allowed the Palestinian

people as a people to continue to exist.

Because most people's continued existence is based in the land that they occupy.

But they were driven from that land.

But the idea of Palestine, the consciousness of Palestine, the resistance of Palestine,

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