How College Professors Got Caught Up in U.S.-China Tensions
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The Wall Street Journal
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🗓️ 5 January 2022
⏱️ 19 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | MIT Professor Gung Chen is kind of a big deal in the world of nanotechnology. |
| 0:11.3 | He was chair of the Mechanical Engineering Department at MIT. |
| 0:14.5 | His specialty involves studying how heat moves through very small materials. |
| 0:23.3 | We're talking about like a thousand of a width of a human hair level. |
| 0:28.3 | Professor colleague Arunavish Winatha. |
| 0:30.8 | At MIT, Chen helps set up a research collaboration with another university in China called Sustech. |
| 0:37.6 | In January 2020, he visited there with a group of students. |
| 0:41.9 | But when Chen flew home from China into Boston's Logan Airport, something unexpected happened. |
| 0:47.3 | He's going through customs and border protection agents, pull him over for a secondary inspection, |
| 0:52.1 | and search his baggage, and take his two phones and a computer and start asking him some |
| 0:57.5 | questions about what he was doing in China. |
| 1:00.5 | Chen said that this was just a routine academic trip with students. |
| 1:04.4 | But the agents had more questions. |
| 1:07.1 | And they kind of pressed him. |
| 1:08.7 | These agents keep pressing him on what exactly are these meetings that you were doing in China. |
| 1:14.2 | And he just says they were a part of a collaboration. |
| 1:16.8 | And they press him on that and ask him what kind of collaboration, |
| 1:20.4 | and he just responds to collaboration is a collaboration. |
| 1:23.8 | And then he tells them that all of his research is conducted in the United States. |
| 1:28.4 | Eventually, the customs agents let Chen leave the airport. |
| 1:31.7 | But that wasn't the end of it. |
| 1:33.4 | So the agents write up a report of this interview. |
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