Before we begin today's episode of Australian true crime, I want to tell you about a new project

we've been working on behind the scenes. It's called She Matters. It's a new podcast from

award-winning journalist and femicide researcher Shirel Moody. Each week, Shirel speaks with

families of women and children killed in Australia, sharing who they were, the joy they brought,

and the love they left behind. She Matters isn't a true crime podcast. It's about lives lived, lives loved and lives

lost. She Matters is produced by Dashmade podcasts in association with bravecasting media.

She Matters is available wherever you get your podcasts.

The following podcast contains accounts of child sexual assault.

Listener discretion is advised.

Victim survivors are the most courageous group of people that I know.

They're lionhearted.

They really are.

They don't give up.

And their starting point is one of fear, shame, guilt, just can't talk about it, to,

they've won. They have beaten this very, very powerful, wealthy institution. Judy Curtin is a lawyer and an advocate for victims of institutional child abuse in Australia.

She's at the coal face of the ongoing battle for recognition and restitution for victims,

and she joins us on Australian True Crime to talk about the current landscape in that area.

This is Australian True Crime.

We acknowledge the traditional owners of the land on which this podcast is created,

the Wurundri Woi Wurang people of the Koolan Nation.

I think it must be in the DNA. That's all I can say. I just seem to be very fortunate and have the requisite fire in the belly.

We were brought up as kids. Mum used to say, you know, look out to the underdog. Stick up to the underdog.

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