How Charlie Kirk Became the Kingmaker of the Religious Right | Dr. Matthew Boedy
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Eric Skwarczynski
4.5 • 737 Ratings
🗓️ 19 October 2025
⏱️ 83 minutes
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Summary
Pick up a copy of Dr. Boedy's book: https://amzn.to/3JjnqQA
Matthew Boedy was targeted by Turning Point USA in 2016 and listed on its “professor watchlist” after speaking up against allowing concealed guns on college campuses. As one of the foremost experts on Turning Point USA and its founder and CEO Charlie Kirk, Boedy exposes their role in perpetuating Christian nationalism in the United States and the threat to democracy they pose. With a background in journalism, an MFA in creative writing, and a PhD in rhetoric, he is a dynamic and experienced scholar whose first book, Speaking of Evil, explored the evolving rhetoric surrounding evil. Boedy currently teaches rhetoric and composition courses at the University of North Georgia and lives in Gainesville, Georgia, with his wife and two daughters.
About his book, The Seven Mountains Mandate: Exposing the Dangerous Plan to Christianize America and Destroy Democracy:
“A sobering assessment of the evolution of Christian nationalism.” –Publishers Weekly
Exposing the decades-long plan to radically transform America, from Bill Bright and Loren Cunningham’s 1975 “seven mountains” vision to Charlie Kirk’s 2020 praise of Donald Trump for embracing it, The Seven Mountains Mandate reveals how prosperity preachers and political operatives are destroying democracy under Trump’s second administration.
The movement to install a populist strongman in the White House with a game plan for enforcing right-wing policies and catering to evangelical Christians started well before Donald Trump’s first candidacy. For decades, a well-funded network of religious and political operatives has been quietly working to dismantle democracy and replace it with Christian theocracy. Their strategy? The seven mountains mandate—a plan to seize control of seven key pillars of American society and reshape the nation.
Scholar Matthew Boedy exposes how this movement—driven by prosperity preachers, extremist politicians, and right-wing power brokers—laid the groundwork for Trump’s presidency and is now advancing its agenda under his second administration. From local school board elections to billion-dollar megachurches, this multipronged effort is reshaping the country in ways most Americans don’t even realize. Discover what has motivated the key players in this movement, how they’ve operated, and what is the unprecedented role of millennial “kingmaker” Charlie Kirk, founder of Turning Point USA and the new face of Christian nationalism and the seven mountains movement, who believes that “we finally have a president who understands the seven mountains of cultural influence.”
Today’s news is so much more than the scattershot orders of an extreme administration. With Project 2025 policies in motion, the seven mountains movement is closer than ever to its goal of turning America into a Christian nationalist state. Leaders of this movement have been playing a long game, undermining democracy to establish a theocracy, but it’s not too late to halt their progress and reverse the tide. This book reveals what’s happening behind the scenes—and what you can do to stop it.
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| 0:00.0 | Coming up on the Preach Boys podcast. |
| 0:02.3 | At memorial service really, for me, was a direct Christian nationalism memorial service. |
| 0:07.8 | There were certainly people eulogizing Charlie Kirk, but then as the day wore on and more and more |
| 0:13.0 | Trump administration officials spoke, you can see that they wanted to use his name to further |
| 0:18.7 | their agenda. |
| 0:20.1 | I think the question that can come up often is, okay, they want to Christianize the nation, |
| 0:26.3 | they want to make kids more patriotic, they want to, you know, teach biblical values, big what, |
| 0:32.7 | that sounds great. |
| 0:33.5 | Why should people be more concerned about the spread of Christian nationalism? |
| 0:37.9 | Oh, uh, ain't nobody safe. |
| 0:44.3 | Ain't nobody safe Safe |
| 0:55.0 | In the Bible moment, oh, in a Bible home. |
| 1:07.0 | In a Bible home, hell. |
| 1:10.0 | In a Bible home. Hey everybody, welcome back to the Preach Boys podcast today on the show. |
| 1:14.8 | I'm sitting down with Dr. Matthew Bodie, the author of The Seven Mountains Mandate, |
| 1:20.4 | exposing the dangerous plan to Christianize America and destroy democracy. |
| 1:25.3 | And Dr. Bodie's book was scheduled for release on September 30th, |
| 1:28.7 | 2025, but of course 20 days before that release date that the assassination of Charlie Kirk |
| 1:34.8 | took place. And I've mentioned Charlie Kirk a couple times on the show. He's become relevant |
| 1:39.5 | in a couple of the topics that I've covered. But I knew I wanted to talk to Dr. Bodie about his extensive |
| 1:46.0 | research on this topic. This represents years of diving into this organization, its donors, |
| 1:51.7 | its power, political connections, et cetera. And obviously, in the wake of the what happened |
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