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Somebody's Gotta Win with Tara Palmeri

How Chaos Helps Donald Trump, Plus the Return of "Javanka"?

Somebody's Gotta Win with Tara Palmeri

The Ringer

News

4.41.8K Ratings

🗓️ 7 May 2024

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Tara starts the pod by sharing her reporting on Ivanka Trump's possible return to the world of politics and, more importantly, her dad’s inner circle. She’s then joined by Democratic pollster Evan Roth Smith to discuss the obstacles that are keeping Joe Biden’s approval numbers low, examine the ways he can get them back up, and debate the influence of the "double hater" voter base in the upcoming election. For more of Tara's reporting, please sign up for her newsletter, ‘The Best and the Brightest,’ at puck.news/tarapalmeri and use the discount code TARA20 Host: Tara Palmeri Guest: Evan Roth Smith Producer: Chris Sutton Production Supervision: Conor Nevins Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Go to economist.com and get your first month free. Hi, I'm Tara Paul Mary. I'm Puck's Senior Political Correspondent, and this is

1:27.0

Somebody's Gotta win. On this episode, I speak with Democratic Polster

1:31.1

Evan Roth Smith about some messaging that he's testing

1:34.3

that he thinks could help pull Joe Biden out of the water and possibly even capture

1:38.8

some elusive Mickey Haley voters in those swing states. We also talk about double haters, you know those

1:44.4

voters who hate both Trump and Joe Biden, and how the chaos around Biden might

1:48.9

actually be helping Trump. I know Trump himself is considered the biggest Chaos agent out there but maybe not as much as we think.

1:56.1

But first I want to talk about some of my latest exclusive reporting at puk.news,

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