How can peace be achieved in Ukraine?
Ukrainecast
BBC
4.7 • 1K Ratings
🗓️ 8 October 2024
⏱️ 26 minutes
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Summary
How could peace negotiations between Russia and Ukraine pan out and are they even a possibility right now?
Conflict negotiator Oliver McTernan and former UK ambassador to Russia Sir Laurie Bristow discuss the likelihood of both countries coming to the table and what role the US presidential election could play.
Today’s episode is presented by Victoria Derbyshire and James Waterhouse. The producers were Arsenii Sokolov, Cordelia Hemming and Ivana Davidovic. The technical producer was Mike Regaard. The series producer is Tim Walklate. The assistant editor is Ben Mundy. Email Ukrainecast@bbc.co.uk with your questions and comments. You can also send us a message or voice note via WhatsApp, Signal or Telegram to +44 330 1239480
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| 0:00.0 | BBC Sounds, music, radio podcasts. |
| 0:04.6 | Hello, it's 958 days since Russia began its full-scale invasion of Ukraine. |
| 0:09.6 | The US presidential election is just four weeks away now. |
| 0:13.3 | US Vice President Kamla Harris has been speaking to Bill Whitaker on CBS News in the US. |
| 0:19.2 | Would you meet with President Vladimir Putin to negotiate a solution to the war in Ukraine? |
| 0:25.0 | Not bilaterally without Ukraine. |
| 0:28.0 | No. |
| 0:29.0 | Ukraine must have a say in the future of Ukraine. |
| 0:33.4 | Donald Trump, if he were president, |
| 0:36.4 | Putin would be sitting in Kiev right now. |
| 0:38.9 | He talks about, oh, he can end it on day one. |
| 0:41.5 | You know what that is? It's about surrender. |
| 0:44.0 | And James, there is growing chatter, at least in Western media, about the potential for future peace talks between Russia and Ukraine. |
| 0:52.8 | Yeah, we're seeing the likes of the economists, the Washington Post, the Financial Times, |
| 0:58.8 | calling for a change in strategy. |
| 1:00.8 | In essence, getting Ukraine to agree to a frozen conflict line in exchange for security |
| 1:09.5 | guarantees around NATO membership perhaps and in giving it the military tools it needs to just |
| 1:16.0 | hold the line. It's gone down pretty badly in Ukraine. The argument is the US |
| 1:21.6 | won't go for it because it won't want to station NATO troops in Ukraine, such as the fear by Washington of direct confrontation. |
| 1:29.0 | Ukraine doesn't want to go for it because it's still seen as existential this war. And Russia also, it's still seen as existential this war and Russia also it still believes it can take more |
| 1:35.9 | territory the idea of NATO membership for Ukraine or its very existence is still a non-starter but |
| 1:41.4 | nevertheless I think we're going to see this kind of chatter, these kind of reports, grow in the coming weeks and months. |
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