How Can I Know God Hears Me When I’m Hurting? Levi Lusko & Peter Mutabazi
Jesus Calling: Stories of Faith
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🗓️ 4 November 2021
⏱️ 28 minutes
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Summary
As children, many of us have been taught to pray and that God will help us. But as we grow into adulthood our simple prayers can turn into desperate pleas as our lives become more complex and difficult. What happens when the prayers we pray don’t seem to be heard, or the circumstances of our lives become so traumatic we may doubt if God is even listening? Our guests this week had their own ups and downs in their relationship to prayer and to God. Pastor Levi Lusko faced the tragic loss of his five-year-old daughter that shook his whole world. Foster Dad Peter Mutabazi grew up in mind-numbing poverty made worse by the abuse of his earthly father—robbing him of the hope of possibly ever knowing the love of a true Father. These men share their experiences and what gave them hope to survive the most devastating experiences of their lives.
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Interview Quotes:
“When [my daughter] Lenya went to heaven, we were at a loss as parents, not only how to go through what we were facing ourselves, but how to help our kids process it.” - Levi Lusko
“I feel empowered in my pain and there's a purpose in it. But then I also love that it acknowledges that this might take a while. It's not instant. I have to wait sometimes. And in that waiting is where God really is going to develop the muscles of strength inside of you that hopefully can help you to handle the kind of blessing that He ultimately wants to give you.” - Levi Lusko
“Abuse wasn't just coming towards me, but it was going towards all my siblings, including my mom. So even though one parent was there to protect us, most of the time, we could not protect her because she faced the same abuse from my dad. And so that that was what life was. That was just the worst you could think of. So for me, you know, if you told me to dream, today was bad enough that I didn't really want to think about tomorrow.” - Peter Mutabazi
“I realized just how good I was at school as well. And so that's really how I began to hope and how I began to truly see myself as someone who will get somewhere, not because I had it, but because someone saw that in me and he believed and had faith in me.” - Peter Mutabazi
“I went to the restaurant and the amount of food I saw being thrown away really, really [made me] question my faith, you know, because to see how much was thrown away and knowing that kids in my village are going to die today because they didn't have a meal, I began to ask God like, “God, do you love us the same way? How can some people have so much to throw away every day, but others have so little that they will lose their lives?” You know, and that was a challenge for me.” - Peter Mutabazi
“Things that I can draw from my own life and be able to share with them has truly been so meaningful, you know, that you look back and say, ‘Wow, God, I had no idea, but you allowed me to go through all of that. But at the same time, I can use the past to change your little ones here in the United States.’” - Peter Mutabazi
“We stand to be an advocate for those who are not seen and those who are not heard.” - Peter Mutabazi
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| 0:00.0 | I always try to remind people like you don't have to always be talking. Prayer can be just |
| 0:05.7 | being silent. Be still and know that I'm God. That's prayer too. And there's still a lot |
| 0:09.6 | communicated in the silence. And so I don't think you have to fill every second and fill |
| 0:14.1 | all the air. It's listening, it's speaking, it's just being together. I think that God |
| 0:20.1 | wants you to be liberated in your prayer life and not feel like you're a prisoner in it. |
| 0:26.1 | Help them to the Jesus Calling podcast. As children, many of us have been taught to pray, |
| 0:31.2 | and that God will help us. But as we grow into adulthood, our simple prayers can turn |
| 0:35.6 | into desperate pleas, as our lives become more complex and difficult. What happens when |
| 0:40.6 | the prayers we pray don't seem to be heard, where the circumstances of our lives become |
| 0:44.8 | so dramatic, we may doubt if God is even listening. Our guests this week had their own ups and |
| 0:50.3 | downs in their relationship to prayer, and to God. Pastor Levi Lusco faced the tragic |
| 0:55.2 | loss of his five-year-old daughter that shook his whole world. Foster Dad, Peter Medibati, |
| 1:00.6 | grew up in a mind-numbing poverty, made worse by the abusive as earthly father, robbing |
| 1:05.5 | him of his hope of possibly ever knowing the love of a true father. These men share their |
| 1:10.4 | experiences and what gave them hope to survive the most devastating experiences of their lives. |
| 1:22.1 | First up, we'll talk with Levi Lusco, the pastor of Fresh Life Church, who opens up about |
| 1:26.6 | the tragic loss of his daughter, Lena, and shares how he processed his own grief through |
| 1:30.8 | honest conversations with God, and how he was moved to help his kids through their grief, |
| 1:36.0 | by creating scripture stories that could help all children going through loss, understand |
| 1:40.6 | the heart of God. When Linu and Tevin, we were at a loss as parents, |
| 1:47.4 | not only how to go through, we were facing ourselves, but how to help our kids |
| 1:51.9 | process it. Of course, we involved professionals and our spiritual community and all the rest, |
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