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🗓️ 4 May 2023
⏱️ 36 minutes
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The Enneagram is complex and dynamic and is itself, this act of self-curiousity, a portal to growth. With that in mind, how do we use it in an intentional way to achieve more integration and balance in our lives?
In today’s episode, we dial into the importance of Stances with Enneagram master Dr. Jerome Wagner. Stances are a way that we move through the world in order to get our needs met, but “they can also be a defensive strategy so they work in both ways,” says Dr. Wagner, “They protect us and get us what we need.”
Dr. Wagner provides a comprehensive explanation of the Hornevian Stances and how we can use this knowledge to consciously adapt to life’s circumstances in a manner that best serves ourselves and others.
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Dr. Jerome “Jerry” Wagner, Ph.D. is a clinical psychologist, psychotherapist, supervisor, consultant in private practice, and emeritus faculty member in the Department of Psychology and Institute of Pastoral Studies at Loyola University, Chicago.
As one of the earliest students of the Enneagram in the United States, Dr. Wagner has been researching and teaching the Enneagram since 1980 and began the Enneagram Spectrum Training and Certification Program in 1995. He has presented Enneagram workshops for business consultants and coaches, human resource directors, counselors, therapists, spiritual directors, educators, and personal growth audiences throughout the United States and in Canada, England, Spain, Finland, Australia, Hong Kong, Singapore, and South Africa.
His books, Nine Lenses on the World: the Enneagram Perspective and The Enneagram Spectrum of Personality Styles: an Introductory Guide, 25th Anniversary Edition are both available through Amazon.com.
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| 0:00.0 | Hey folks and welcome to typology the show on which we explore the story of you through |
| 0:10.2 | the lens of the any gram my name is Anthony Skinner your co-host so happy to have you here. |
| 0:15.4 | Hey before I go any further I want to remind you be sure to follow Ian and typology on |
| 0:22.1 | socials at Ian Morgan Crumb and at typology podcast you can find us there. Today's guest Dr. |
| 0:30.4 | Jerome Wagner he is a clinical psychologist psychotherapist supervisor consultant in private |
| 0:37.3 | practice and emeritus faculty member in the Department of Psychology and Institute of pastoral |
| 0:43.6 | studies at Loyola University and Jerry is one of the earliest students of the any gram in the |
| 0:50.4 | United States. His dissertation was one of the first written descriptions of the any gram and |
| 0:56.3 | pioneered formal research studies on the any gram. He's a wealth of knowledge we're happy to have |
| 1:02.3 | him on the show. Glad he's here long overdue. Glad you're here to hear him speak. Without any further |
| 1:08.6 | ado here is the host of our show Ian Crumb. |
| 1:11.9 | Hey typology tribe we have an amazing wow an amazing amazing guest today I want you to welcome |
| 1:27.1 | any gram five with a six wing self-presse I might add Dr. Jerry Wagner author of the books nine |
| 1:34.0 | lenses on the world the any gram perspective and the any gram spectrum of personality styles and |
| 1:40.4 | introductory guide and check this out one of the earliest pioneering voices who brought the any |
| 1:48.1 | gram into the modern conversation the present day conversation Jerry welcome to typology. |
| 1:55.3 | Thanks Ian thank you for inviting me we have to start with your introduction and your history |
| 2:01.2 | with the any gram that I'm dying for people to hear about it from you. Oh hell I was taught by Bob |
| 2:08.3 | Oaks Bob Oaks was a Jesuit and Bob Oaks used to teach systematic theology which if you could think |
| 2:15.2 | about the most boring branch of theology systematic theology would be it but he drifted and ended |
| 2:22.8 | up going out to Esselon and got interested in religious experience and took the very first course |
| 2:32.6 | that Claudio Nirono taught and I thought Helen Palmer was in that class but I think she was in |
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