How Can Biblical Leadership Save America? with Pastor Robert Furrow

I Don't Have Enough FAITH to Be an ATHEIST

Dr. Frank Turek

Religion & Spirituality, Education, Christianity

4.8 • 5K Ratings

🗓️ 24 October 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Are we experiencing a revival here in the United States and maybe around the world? Pastor Robert Furrow, long-time leader of Calvary Chapel Tucson, joins Frank to share what he’s witnessing firsthand and to unpack insights from his new book, 'The Making of a Biblical Leader: A Practical Guide to Leading Others Well'. They discuss what true leadership looks like, and how every Christian can make a difference in this historical moment of renewed interest in the truth of the Gospel.Tune in as they answer questions like:* What is biblical leadership and how does it differ from worldly leadership?* How can everyday Christians—not just pastors—lead people to Jesus?* How is politics an "on-ramp" to Christianity?* What important life lessons did Robert learn from his mentor, Skip Heitzig, about leadership and adding value to people's lives?* What is the "inversion principle"?* What made Jesus such an effective leader?* What leadership principles can we learn from biblical figures like King Asa?* How can Christians apply biblical principles even in secular workplaces or hostile environments?* How have figures like Charlie Kirk been so effective at influencing the next generation?Whether you lead a family, a business, or a church, this conversation will help you take the next step in living out your faith with courage and purpose. Tune in to learn how God can use your influence to impact others and move His Kingdom forward—right where you are.If you enjoyed this podcast episode PLEASE HELP US SPREAD THE TRUTH OF CHRISTIANITY BY SUPPORTING OUR MINISTRY USING THE LINK BELOW. 100% of your donation goes to ministry, 0% to buildings!Resources mentioned during the episode:Donate to CrossExamined - https://donor.crossexamined.org/ (https://donor.crossexamined.org/)The Making of a Biblical Leader by Robert Furrow - https://a.co/d/0Z0stiJ (https://a.co/d/0Z0stiJ)Calvary Chapel Tucson - https://calvarytucson.com/ (https://calvarytucson.com/)Watch Calvary Chapel Tucson on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/@CalvaryTucson (https://www.youtube.com/@CalvaryTucson) The Truth Quest Podcast - https://bit.ly/3WidY2Z (https://bit.ly/3WidY2Z)

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0:00.0	Ladies and gentlemen, are we experiencing a revival here in the United States of America,
0:08.3	maybe around the world?
0:11.0	There seems to be a renewed interest in Christianity.
0:13.5	We're seeing it on college campuses.
0:15.7	We're seeing it in churches.
0:17.1	And ever since Charlie Kirk's murder, people have been contacting me and contacting
0:22.6	TPSA and even contacting churches in their area saying, hey, what can I do? What can I do now?
0:28.2	I feel led to be a little bit more bold in my Christian witness. So how can I do that? What should I do?
0:37.0	Give me some advice. I want to get involved. I've had so many
0:40.2	emails. People want to get involved with cross-examine. People want to get involved with TPPUSA.
0:44.4	People just wanting to do something. So how can we guide people at this time? Well, Pastor Robert
0:52.0	Farrow has been a pastor. This month, he hit 40 years at Calvary Chapel, Tucson.
1:00.6	He's been a friend of mine for quite a long time.
1:03.8	And he's seeing this on the ground.
1:06.3	He's going to share some of his wisdom on this.
1:09.2	And so it's great having Robert with us, Pastor Robert,
1:15.0	thanks for joining us here on I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. How are things in Tucson?
1:20.0	Very good. Yeah, it's really good to be on the show and good to be on with you. I watch your videos
1:25.0	all the time. And we've been friends now for 15, 20 years.
1:30.3	It's been a while, man. Yeah. It's been a while. You should have been involved in the church for that long.
1:34.4	I think 2020 might have been when we met during COVID. Yeah. I've known about you before then.
1:41.1	And I think you may have seen some of my stuff. But even before COVID,
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