Research that resonates.

He's the president of the Government Accountability Institute, Peter Switzer.

Peter Schweitzer. Peter Schweitzer. Peter Schweitzer has spent many years, in fact, probably done a more comprehensive job than anyone's ever done, chronicling the corruption by the powerful in Washington.

Be very prescient, Eric Eggers. Join me right now is Government Accountability Institute Research Director, Eric Eggers. We're going to take information that we've learned, that people like

Peter Schweitzer have uncovered, and we're going to try to go further. Great investigative reporting,

Peter. You're the only one doing it. Thank God.

Eric Eggers from the Government Accountability Institute and co-hosts of that great podcast, The Drilled Down with Peter Schweitzer.

This is The Drill Down with Peter Schweitzer.

Hi, it's Peter Schweitzer and welcome to The Drill Down. Well, everybody wants to fight fraud, right?

Everyone wants fraud exposed, or do they?

We're going to unpack a piece of legislation that's being introduced in California

and will probably be introduced elsewhere to actually prevent people from exposing fraud.

And we're going to do that, of course, with Eric Eggers, the co-host of this program. Eric, how are you? Hey, listen, we're talking about one of my favorite topics, which is like the interference with the enforcement of the law. So I'm here. Let's go. Yeah, yeah. You actually wrote a book called fraud. Is there something else you want to kind of add to that?

There's no criminal record here on your part, is there? Well, it's just, it's just short

podcast, Peter. Let's just keep it moving. You know, let's keep it interested in the public's

general areas of interest. It is wild, though, that like you see these common themes, because

whether it's the fraud that we've seen in Minnesota, whether it's

like the same type of fraud in California, election fraud, people donating through Act Blue,

like lots of different things are happening that shouldn't be happening. And you'd think people

would be more interested in exposing it and stopping it. Yeah. And the real question is,

is what are they doing

to prevent fraud from being exposed? And then, of course, why are they doing it? And we're going to

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