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The Bunker – News without the nonsense

How borders shaped world history – with Jonn Elledge

The Bunker – News without the nonsense

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News, Society & Culture, Politics, Government

4.61K Ratings

🗓️ 30 April 2024

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

We live in a world of borders – and often take them for granted. But they’ve shaped the world in myriad ways over the centuries. Our politicians go to extreme lengths to secure them and in some cases build giant walls to protect them. So what can we learn from examining their history?     Andrew Harrison is joined by Jonn Elledge, author of A History of the World in 47 Borders: The Stories Behind the Lines on Our Maps, as we talk about the weird and wonderful history of the lines on our maps.     • “Open borders aren’t inherently progressive, Genghis Khan was in favour of them!”  – Jonn Elledge   • “When you look back through history, You have empires, you have cities but there aren’t many borders.” – Jonn Elledge  • “Borders in Europe only really started settling down in the 17th and 18th centuries.”  – Jonn Elledge     We are sponsored by Indeed. Go to Indeed.com/bunker for £100 sponsored credit.    Support us on Patreon.   Buy Jonn Elledge’s book A History of the World in 47 Borders: The Stories Behind the Lines on Our Maps through our affiliate bookshop and you’ll help fund The Bunker by earning us a small commission for every sale. Bookshop.org’s fees help support independent bookshops too.  Written and presented by Andrew Harrison. Producer: Liam Tait. Audio editor: Jade Bailey. Managing editor: Jacob Jarvis. Music by Kenny Dickinson. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. THE BUNKER is a Podmasters Production.  Instagram | Twitter  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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after theirs with dental life. Pick up your mornings. I'm Andrew Harrison. This time, we live in a world of borders. We argue over them, we obsess over them. We spend millions build giant walls and warp our politics out of shape in order to secure them.

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And some of us are willing to kill large numbers of people in order to move them or just to keep

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them where they are.

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They're so deeply rooted in our way of life that we never question their legitimacy

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or imagine that a perimeter where one state abuts directly against another

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might not be a natural feature of the world at all, but a human creation as abstract and notional as money, love or taxes.

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John Adage, friend of the podcast and regular on paper cuts and oh God what now, knows this and he is fascinated by

1:51.5

borders. He's written a history of the world in 47 borders, the stories behind the lines on our maps.

1:57.0

It's an exceptionally entertaining book which does exactly what it says on the tin and offers the bonus factor of being stuffed with entertaining did you

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nose to amaze your pals. Hello John it's been hours and hours since you're in the

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