How Bitcoin Millionaires Use Their BTC Without Selling It | Shehzan Maredia

The Pomp Podcast

Anthony Pompliano

Investing, Business

4.6 • 2K Ratings

🗓️ 9 March 2026

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

Shehzan Maredia is the Founder & CEO of Lava, a bitcoin-backed lending platform that allows users to borrow against their bitcoin without selling it. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. n this discussion, we cover why many bitcoin holders are borrowing against their BTC instead of selling it, how everyday workers have quietly built wealth by consistently saving in bitcoin, and why bitcoin-backed loans are increasingly being used to fund major purchases like homes. We also discuss stablecoins, global access to dollars, and the future of bitcoin-native financial services.

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0:00 - Intro
0:14 - Why people borrow against bitcoin instead of selling
3:55 - The risks of borrowing against bitcoin
6:10 - How Lava is different from their competitors
8:49 - Stablecoins & global dollar banking
12:22 - Challenges building a bitcoin company
13:16 - Why Lava is skeptical of AI coding tools
16:44 - Technologies Lava is bullish on
17:25 - Why most crypto projects are useless
20:04 - The gambling problem in modern finance
23:30 - Why bitcoin is built for savers

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0:00.0	Could AI help you do more of what you love?
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0:15.0	I think people are realizing that personal finance is exceedingly complex.
0:18.0	I think people just want something, a simple way to save, right? So I think
0:21.3	Bitcoin really fits that in many ways. 90 plus percent of our users borrow against their Bitcoin
0:26.2	to materially improve their lives. Why do people borrow against their Bitcoin? One of the main
0:33.7	use cases for borrowing against your Bitcoin on Lava is actually buying a house, which is very interesting.
0:39.3	So, you know, when I started Lava originally, I thought a lot of our use case would just be leverage,
0:44.3	you know, people borrowing to buy the dip.
0:46.3	But what really surprised me is how many of our users, I would say 90 plus percent of our users
0:52.3	borrow against their Bitcoin to materially improve their lives.
0:55.6	And one thing that was very interesting to me about these users that we have that have Bitcoin is,
1:00.7	you know, a lot of them are actually not extremely high income.
1:04.0	A lot of them are what you would call like middle income, but they've actually saved their way
1:08.2	through to generational wealth through Bitcoin.
1:10.8	So it's really interesting because, you know, I got into Bitcoin more than a decade ago.
1:15.1	And one of the DCs of the community was that you could save your way to financial freedom.
1:19.3	You wouldn't have to gamble your way to financial freedom.
1:21.6	And it's really inspiring to see a lot of our users that have saved their way to wealth and now are borrowing
1:28.6	against it to really materially improve their lives. You know, buying a nice house, for example,
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