This is the science podcast for October 9th, 2025. I'm Sarah Crespi. First this week,

producer Kevin McLean talks with online news editor Michael Greshko about the impact of wildfires on wine,

a couple of horse stories, one modern, one ancient, and why educators are racing to archive

government materials.

Next on the show, I visit the lab of researcher Kimberly Roosevelt and her PhD student, Liz Aguilar,

in the Department of Biology at Indiana University Bloomington.

We talked about a citizen science initiative that captured bird behavior before, during, and after,

a total solar eclipse.

Today we have Associate Online News Editor Michael Greshko.

Hi, Michael.

Welcome back to the science podcast.

Thank you so much for having me.

You know, there's always all kinds of interesting stuff in the science podcast. Thank you so much for having me. You know,

there's always all kinds of interesting stuff on the news site. It can be hard to choose what to discuss

in these roundups. But living in Northern California myself, one of the stories that caught my eye

recently was a story from one of our writers, Selena Schau, about wildfires and wine. But it's not just about vineyards burning. There's a

risk to the flavor of the grapes and the wine, too. Is that right? There is indeed. When

Selena pitched this story to me, I thought it was just totally fascinating. The danger for the wine

industry is not just the vineyards burning, but what happens when smoke from

wildfires drifts into a vineyard? I can't imagine, Kevin, that you're in the habit of licking

ash trays. I certainly am not. Yeah, I do my best not to. Right. But we are both innately

recoiling at that idea because we have a sense that the smoke and

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