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Sounds. Hello dear listener and welcome to crowd signs. I'm Jeff Marsha.

You're currently being serenated by living dinosaurs on the show that answers all your questions about science.

The sorts of things you think up while naval gazing in the bathtub,

or as was the case for this week's listener watching birds hop around in the garden.

Don't worry you didn't miss hear me

you really are being serenated by living dinosaurs yes this is

bird song but birds are dinosaurs and if you don't believe me here are a few dinosaur

experts that we'll meet in this episode hammering that message home.

Dinosaur just isn't a term for something that's dead.

Dinosaurs are very much alive.

And that's why we can say that I've got dinosaurs in my backyard because they never really

stop being dinosaurs.

They are always dinosaurs.

Like we're always mammals.

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