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Hello and

welcome to episode 7 of Unfiltered with me James O'Brien here on Joe and it is an interview with a

chap you may not have heard of you probably should have done but I'll forgive you if you haven't

Bill Browder I don't want to spoil the story actually.

He has a tale to tell that will remind you in places of a James Bond film or novel and yet it is all completely true it is all happening and he's the first

unfiltered guest who has in the course of the last four weeks been on Interpol's

most wanted list and frankly if that doesn't make you listen I don't know what been on Interpol's Most Wanted list.

And frankly, if that doesn't make you list,

and I don't know what will.

Hello and welcome to the seventh episode of Unfiltered. I'm delighted to welcome

Bill Browder into the Unfiltered studio. Bill I hope you won't take this the wrong

way. You're probably the first interviewee in the series who isn't a household name but you are

the first that's recently appeared on the Interpol Most Wanted list.

So I guess it's you know swings and roundabout.

I'd rather be a household name than on the Interpol list but you know here I am

one way or the other. We will get you a New York Times bestseller of your

account of the story that we're going to explore together.

Red Notice, but we'll end, I think, with the Interpol,

because that will take us up to the latest developments in a story that began,

well, I mean, for me it began in a story that began, well I mean for me it began in in about 2006 I think

when you were first refused entry into Russia but then the first time I met you I

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