How Big Tech Is Losing Their Antitrust Trials feat. Jason Kint
Better Offline
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🗓️ 23 April 2025
⏱️ 34 minutes
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Ed Zitron is joined by Jason Kint, CEO of DCN, to talk about Google's recent antitrust trial losses, Meta's FTC case, and why it should give you hope for the future.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an IHeart podcast. |
| 0:02.5 | Guaranteed human. |
| 0:06.7 | Quarzo Media. |
| 0:09.3 | I get on their ass. |
| 0:10.8 | Somebody's got to do it. |
| 0:15.8 | This is Better Offline. |
| 0:23.6 | This is Better Offline, I'm Ed Zittron. |
| 0:26.0 | Today I'm joined by the wonderful Jason Kint, who has been at the Google Ads trial |
| 0:31.3 | and multiple other FDC and DOJ-related trials as well. |
| 0:35.7 | Now, last week we have wonderful news. |
| 0:37.4 | The Department of Justice |
| 0:38.2 | won their antitrust trial against Google saying they have a monopoly over ad tech. This is a wonderful |
| 0:42.8 | time and Jason of course last year was here for multiple episodes with us to walk us through the |
| 0:47.0 | trial. He was there in person. Jason, how are you doing? I'm good. Thank you. It's good to see |
| 0:52.7 | decisions starting to come in from the courts on what we've been talking about. |
| 0:56.6 | And just to be clear, Jason, this is the CEO of digital content next. I did not say that at the top. It's the professional podcast run by a professional. |
| 1:03.4 | So walk us through what the verdict was. This is the ad tech case against Google that was in Virginia to remind the listeners. |
| 1:13.6 | And it was around Google having market power and monopoly power on the buy side, the sell side, and in the exchange, and then illegally using that monopoly power. |
| 1:24.8 | The decision from the judge was that mostly in agreement with the plaintiffs, |
| 1:29.5 | and it was a big win for the Justice Department who worked really hard on this case, that they |
| 1:34.0 | have monopoly power in the exchange, so where the auctions actually happen. And then on the publisher |
| 1:40.2 | side with the ad server marketplace that determines what ads land on the page, |
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