How Big Tech Destroys Learning
Uncomfortable Conversations with Josh Szeps
Josh Szeps
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🗓️ 26 February 2026
⏱️ 51 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Goody, humans. Welcome to the safe space for dangerous ideas. It's a dangerous question for |
| 0:09.4 | anyone who is trying to teach themselves a new skill or help their kids to learn. How exactly |
| 0:15.1 | are humans hardwired to learn best? How do you feel most naturally drawn to learning? Does it come easily or is it hard? Are you drawn to |
| 0:23.8 | e-readers or to physical books? Are you someone who prefers typing or handwriting? Do you like |
| 0:30.7 | duolingo or do you like moving to a Tuscan villa and drinking wine and arguing about |
| 0:36.3 | Epicureanism? Look, to each their own, |
| 0:38.7 | I'm not here to judge. I just feel like we're all kind of aware of the problem of smartphones |
| 0:44.3 | and social media and kids and screen time. But the problem may be deeper, according to today's |
| 0:51.7 | guest. We may actually be hardwired in our brains and even in our bodies |
| 0:56.2 | to learn in tactile lo-fi, even Luddite ways. |
| 1:01.6 | We're hardwired to learn in ways that technology just can't reproduce. |
| 1:06.4 | So educational technology has been rolled out in schools all over the world at a massive pace. |
| 1:15.2 | Tablets and crime books are everywhere, and they're supposed to tailor education specifically |
| 1:19.2 | to the child. |
| 1:20.6 | Was the entire thing a giant scam, and is it actually causing schools to fail? |
| 1:26.4 | Today's guest is Jared Cooney-Horvath. |
| 1:29.0 | He does education-related brain and behavioral research. |
| 1:33.3 | He's a neuroscientist, and he's the director of the science of learning group and of neuroeducation, |
| 1:38.6 | where he tries to take his research and apply it to the education space. |
| 1:42.1 | He's lectured and researched at Harvard University. |
| 1:44.3 | He's been published in The New Yorker and The the economist and the Atlantic and the New York Times and |
| 1:48.0 | Scientific American and a new scientist. I could go on and on and on. He's got a new book. It's called |
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