How "Bich" Became “Beth” – An American Tale
Notes from America with Kai Wright
WNYC Studios
4.4 • 1.5K Ratings
🗓️ 21 March 2022
⏱️ 49 minutes
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Summary
What’s in a name? A lot. A listener's voicemail inspired us to explore the sometimes complicated relationship between our names and our racial and ethnic identities. Host Kai Wright is joined by novelist Beth Nguyen to discuss her personal journey when it comes to her name, and invited callers to share their own stories. Check out Beth’s article for The New Yorker: America Ruined My Name For Me.
Companion listening for this episode:
Why So Many Are Stuck in the “Other” Box (2/21/2022)
The episode that motivated such listener reactions: The U.S. Census named “some other race” as the second-largest racial group in the U.S. Mona Chalabi talks us through the data, and the stakes, of that statistic.
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| 0:00.0 | Did you ever have a moment when you realized that your name can base something about you? |
| 0:05.3 | I didn't really love my name as much as a child. |
| 0:08.2 | I would question my family, why is my name say like, I've never heard anyone with that name. |
| 0:12.9 | But when I got older, I started to appreciate my name more because I felt like it was unique. |
| 0:18.2 | Well, my first name is John, but I don't go by John because there's so many John's in |
| 0:21.7 | the world. |
| 0:22.7 | So I go by Gordon. |
| 0:23.7 | I used to go by like Lizzie and Liz when I was younger. |
| 0:25.7 | I just go by full name now mainly because I felt like it was a personality. |
| 0:28.6 | People were signing to me through my name. |
| 0:30.8 | I think because my name is so common that you kind of just know people by their last name, |
| 0:35.6 | like Sophia A or Sophia B. So I think my last name needs a lot more than me too. |
| 0:40.4 | Because my last name is ethnic, I think a lot about my family and where it originates from. |
| 0:44.6 | My mom always told me that she named me Devon because it wasn't like a black name. |
| 0:49.6 | She experienced a lot of racism in her life and didn't want her children to. |
| 0:52.6 | Welcome to the show, I'm Kai Wright. |
| 0:59.7 | It's kind of remarkable just how much meaning our names carry, right? |
| 1:03.8 | And history as Devon was just saying, we think they're pretty great conversation starters |
| 1:08.2 | here. |
| 1:09.2 | So we're going to talk about them in depth this week. |
| 1:12.0 | And the show is special to us because it is fully in response to something we heard |
| 1:16.3 | from one of you, our listeners. |
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