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🗓️ 27 June 2023
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0:00.0 | From New York Times' opinion, this is the Ezra Klein Show. |
0:24.0 | So a quiet theme of the show. |
0:25.9 | A quiet theme I think of just being alive at this moment in time is the troubled relationship |
0:32.8 | between human beings and everything that is not us. |
0:35.8 | I mean, also, of course, between human beings and other human beings, but between human beings |
0:39.7 | and the animal world, which we are both a part of and somehow not, or at least like the |
0:46.7 | belief or not, between human beings and animals, some of which we love and would do anything |
0:51.4 | for their survival, like our dogs and our cats and some of which we raise for food in |
0:56.0 | the coolest conditions imaginable, and many of which we just don't think about at all, |
1:00.4 | and end up affected by our actions, but never part of our calculus. |
1:05.9 | But then, of course, there's also this emergent relationship between human beings and the |
1:09.9 | kinds of intelligences or simulacra of intelligences that we're creating. |
1:16.6 | I'm thinking specifically here of artificial intelligence and the way it has occasioned |
1:22.6 | a lot of anxiety then about what we are and what our worth is if we can indeed create |
1:28.7 | things more capable than us or smarter than us in narrow tasks and increasingly in general |
1:34.7 | ones. |
1:35.7 | So this question of how humanity relates to its own animal nature and then how that |
1:41.2 | relationship or that denial of a relationship shows up in our technologies, I think is |
1:46.9 | pretty present. |
1:47.9 | And as much as it sounds like a fuzzy philosophical question, I think it ends up being a very policy |
1:52.7 | relevant one, policy relevant in our policy towards animals, towards farm animals, towards |
1:57.8 | the ecology, towards the environment, and then of course towards AI and how AI will be |
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