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Is the Syrian Civil War over?

Did Bishar al-Assad win it?

And if he did, what is winning even mean

for a country that's pretty much made entirely

at a rubble?

Most importantly, what's next for the dictator

and the people who live within the sort of nation's borders?

To help us understand what's going on, we've got Washington Post correspondent Liz Sly.

She's covered the war since it began in 2011 and has made many trips to Syria.

She's also a fantastic writer and multiple award winner.

Thank you so much for coming on the show.

Thank you so much for having me.

What's the state of Syria's civil war now?

The war is not over, but it's not raging either.

People call it a frozen conflict, but that implies nothing's happening which isn't

quite true either. You have still have front lines and that the fighting takes place along

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