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What happened when scientists and artists were paired together to make art at a scientific HIV conference?

When I was creating this piece, I wanted to make it more personal.

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It's Wednesday, October 11th, and today, just like every day, is Science Friday.

I'm SciFRI producer Dee Petershmit.

This past July, the 12th International Conference on HIV Science was held in Brisbane, Australia,

but this wasn't your typical conference.

Yes, findings were presented on the latest in HIV research,

but it culminated in a museum exhibition.

Twelve HIV-positive artists were paired with 12 scientists to create art

largely based on the scientist research.

I spoke to one of those pairs about their work and their hopes for future HIV research.

And just a heads-up for parents listening with kids, we'll be talking about anatomy and

adult topics in this conversation.

In the HIV science as art exhibit at Brisbane's Metro Arts, you could find pieces about

breastfeeding, STIs, and exploring a possible cure for the virus.

And one of them, titled Untransmitable,

was the product of two conference attendees, and they're with me today.

Kairan Liu is an artist, curator, and photographer. He's based in Taipei, Taiwan. And Kane Race

is a professor of gender and cultural studies at the University of Sydney. He's also the author

of the book, The Gay Science, Intimate Experiments with the Problem of Sydney. He's also the author of the book, The Gay Science,

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