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Getting Better with Jonathan Van Ness

How Are Iranians Making History? (Part Two) with The Iranian Diaspora Collective

Getting Better with Jonathan Van Ness

Sony Music

Self-improvement, Education, Comedy, Society & Culture

4.921.6K Ratings

🗓️ 6 April 2023

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

A note from team Getting Curious: This episode contains descriptions of violence that are at times graphic.   Women in Iran aren’t allowed to dance, sing, or show their hair in public. But it wasn’t always this way in the country. In part two of our conversation with Moj Mahdara and Nicolette Mason of the Iranian Diaspora Collective, we’re exploring the history of the Islamic Republic of Iran—and considering what a free, secular democracy, a new constitution, and an end to theocracy could look like for Iranians.   If you haven’t listened to part one yet, check it out. We discuss the basics on what it’s like to live in Iran today, and map out the women-led revolution underway in the country.   You can follow Iranian Diaspora Collective on Instagram @iraniandiasporacollective, and at iraniandiasporacollective.com. Nicolette is on Instagram @nicolettemason. Moj is on Instagram @moj.    And you can follow us on Instagram and Twitter @CuriousWithJVN to join the conversation.   The Iranian Diaspora Collective (501c3 pending) is a non-partisan, multi-faith group that is inclusive of multiple backgrounds, gender and LGBTQIA+ identity. The Iranian Diaspora Collective supports the demands of Iranians inside Iran who want a free, secular democracy, a new constitution and an end to theocracy.   Nicolette Mason (she/her) is a celebrated writer, brand strategist in the fashion and beauty industries, and advocate for Inclusivity. She’s a queer, Iranian-American, Jewish advocate, and a founding member of the Iranian Diaspora Collective. As an advocate for diversity and inclusion, Nicolette has collaborated with brands such as Barbie, Nordstrom, Target, NARS, and more, and also co-founded a cult-followed fashion brand called Premme, alongside Gabi Gregg.   Moj Mahdara (she/they), is an Iranian-American entrepreneur, CEO and VC, a co-founder of Kinship Ventures and founding member of Iranian Diaspora Collective. They are focused on bringing more inclusion and diversity to the cap table and have invested in 100+ companies since 2011. Mahdara recently co-founded new fund Kinship Ventures alongside Gwyneth Paltrow. They are also the former CEO of Beautycon, a globally-recognized community for content creators, celebrities, fans, and brands.   Jonathan is on Instagram and Twitter @JVN and @Jonathan.Vanness on Facebook.   Transcripts for each episode are available at JonathanVanNess.com.   Our executive producer is Erica Getto. Our editor is Andrew Carson. Production support from Julie Carrillo, Chris McClure, and Erin McKeon.   Our theme music is “Freak” by QUIÑ; for more, head to TheQuinCat.com. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Okay, Islamic Republic, 1979. Okay, what do we need to know about this moment in history?

0:13.4

Because all I know is like fucking Carter, like maybe a hostage situation or something.

0:19.9

Like what happened with this Islamic Republic? Like who's running it now? How did they come

0:23.4

into power? Nicolette or Moche? Whoever wants to go?

0:26.6

I'm going to give it to you in a mouthful and the Nicolette will griff. Okay.

0:30.4

This started back in the 50s when Mossad Dich was the prime minister was removed from power

0:36.4

by the CIA because he contested British Pratolians power and imposition over this oil.

0:44.0

They had built an amazing oil pipeline or a firing. Look, Iran was a third-old country in

0:48.5

the early 1900s. BP comes in. BP was created in Iran, British Pratolia. They paid for the

0:55.5

refineries. They paid for the infrastructure. And then they basically give them like 10 cents

0:59.5

on the dollar. Mossad Dich was the prime minister. He says, I want a new deal. In the CIA, they

1:05.5

got rid of him. Resa Shah Palavi, who is the Shah of Iran. They give him executive power over

1:11.4

the entire country. Now, there's many things to be said about his successes and his failures.

1:17.2

I personally think he did more good than bad. But he then wanted to renegotiate his deal

1:24.8

in 1978 with the United States to say, I no longer want to trade oil for military equipment.

1:30.0

I want cash money. Basically, the guy that the CIA removed was like, I want a new deal.

1:35.8

They took him out and turned it a new guy. And his name was a Shah. Correct. So 1951, Mossad

1:44.0

Dich is prime minister. He wants to nationalize Iran's oil supply so that everyone in Iran

1:51.0

can benefit from this natural resource in Iran. So then 1953, British MI6 and the CIA undertook

1:59.2

this operation called Operation Ajax to stage a coup and topple Mossad Ag and take him out

2:06.3

of power. So after the fall of the prime minister, the Shah, who's the monarch, Shah Resa Palavi,

2:14.5

was put into power by the British, the Americans and the French. And then 1978, there are mass

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