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🗓️ 4 November 2025
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| 0:00.0 | NPR. This is the indicator from Planet Money. I'm Waylon Wong. And I'm Daryam Woods. It's becoming a familiar |
| 0:17.5 | site in Chicago and its neighboring suburbs. |
| 0:28.1 | Residents and bystanders, spot-masked and armed agents that look like they're part of the federal government's deportation campaign there. |
| 0:31.6 | That's led by U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement or ICE. |
| 0:34.7 | Neighborhood residents honked their car horns when they see agents. |
| 0:44.3 | They blow whistles. Get out of you. They film video on their phones. |
| 0:50.2 | They text each other and call in tips to local immigration advocacy groups. This activity is hard to escape. I live in a Chicago suburb and I've seen helicopters circling overhead and my social |
| 0:54.9 | media groups are blowing up. And it's not just Chicago. Agents from ICE and U.S. Customs and Border |
| 1:00.4 | Protection are also carrying out immigration enforcement in cities like Los Angeles and Portland, |
| 1:05.6 | Oregon. And a lot of residents are using their phones to document and report sightings of agents. |
| 1:12.2 | But the federal government is going after major tech platforms that facilitate these alerts. |
| 1:16.9 | It asked Facebook to suspend a group called Ice Sighting Chicagoland that had almost 80,000 members. |
| 1:22.7 | And it asked Apple to remove an ice-spotting mobile app from its platform. |
| 1:28.2 | Today on the show, we talked to the developer behind that Apple app, and we learn what the |
| 1:33.6 | government crackdown on these tech tools has to do with the ongoing legal battle over Apple's |
| 1:39.3 | power in mobile apps. |
| 1:49.1 | Joshua Aaron caught the tech bug early. |
| 1:53.0 | He learned its first computer language at an after-school program in fourth grade. |
| 1:56.7 | When he was 13, he wrote a blackjack program on an Apple computer. |
| 2:00.2 | Later on, he got certified as a desktop technician for the company. |
| 2:02.6 | I love their operating system. Their devices are phenomenal. |
| 2:04.6 | I happen to love their products. |
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