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10% Happier with Dan Harris

How (And Why) To Lose Yourself | Jay Garfield

10% Happier with Dan Harris

10% Media, LLC

Dan Harris, Health & Fitness, Mindfulness, Dharma, Mental Health, Meditation

4.612.2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 August 2022

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Today’s episode looks at one of the hardest Buddhist principles to grasp— the notion that the self is an illusion. Many people get stuck on the misunderstanding that they don’t exist. They look in the mirror and say, “Of course I exist. I’m right there.” And that’s true, you do exist, but just not in the way you think you do. 


Today’s guest, Jay Garfield explores this notion by arguing that you are indeed a person just not a self— a principle that can simultaneously feel both imponderable and liberating. 


Jay Garfield is the Doris Silbert Professor in the Humanities and Professor of Philosophy, Logic, and Buddhist Studies at Smith College and a visiting professor of Buddhist philosophy at Harvard Divinity School. He is the Author of multiple books, including his latest, which is called, Losing Ourselves: Learning to Live without a Self.


In this episode we talk about: 


  • The difference between a person and a self
  • The problems with being taken by the illusion of selfhood
  • Why he believes the illusion of self is not an evolutionary design flaw
  • The many benefits of “losing ourselves”
  • How to actually lose ourselves
  • The concept of Interconnection
  • His definition of real happiness
  • The difference between pain and suffering and how to have the former without the latter



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0:00.0

This is the 10% happier podcast.

0:06.3

I'm Dan Harris.

0:11.2

Hello, my fellow suffering beings.

0:12.9

Today we're going to take another whack, actually, at that classic Buddhist imponderable,

0:20.2

the notion that the self is an illusion.

0:23.9

This is simultaneously one of the hardest Buddhist principles to grasp and also one of the

0:28.8

most liberating.

0:30.6

Many people get stuck on the misunderstanding that they don't exist.

0:34.7

They look in the mirror and say, of course, I exist.

0:36.3

I'm right here.

0:38.0

And that is true.

0:39.0

You do exist, but just not in the way you think you do.

0:43.0

As my guests today will argue, you are a person, meaning you do appear in the mirror.

0:47.6

You do have a name and a social security number, if you live in the States, and you do

0:51.6

have responsibilities, et cetera, et cetera.

0:53.6

So you are a person.

0:55.9

You're just not a self.

0:58.9

J. Garfield is the Doris Silbert professor in the Humanities and professor of philosophy,

1:05.0

logic, and Buddhist studies at Smith College.

1:08.2

He's also a visiting professor of Buddhist philosophy at Harvard Dominity School.

1:13.1

And he's the author of multiple books, including his latest, which is called losing ourselves,

1:18.4

learning to live without a self.

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