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Stream Morning Cup of Murder everywhere you listen to podcasts. And guest, Giovanni Rocco, former FBI undercover informant, who took down major mob families, one being the one that

was the inspiration for the Sopranos.

And I know you've written a book, Giovanni's Ring, you have a podcast, Inside the Life,

welcome to Juicy Crimes.

Thank you, Heather. Thanks for having me.

I mean, I'm very excited. I have so many questions.

I've always loved seeing movies where there's

an undercover cop, an FBI detective. And I've always wondered, how does that even begin?

Like, so you, you joined the force and then they say, we're going to create this whole other life for you

so that people actually think that you're one of them. Like, tell me how that began. Yeah, I mean,

sometimes it is that simple, right? For me, it was, I'm third generation police. So my undercover

Escapade started at a young age. My dad was a detective in a city. I grew up in an area in Hudson County. And he used to send me up the street to get license plates from bikers and guys that had shop shops like, you know, that were stealing cars and flipping them and changing the vins. So he would send me up on my bicycle with my friends and my brother. I'd write down a license plate and bring it back to him. So I started at a young age. So I had the thrill for it, right? Starski and Hutch was big when I was the kid growing up. And, you know, so Hill Street Blues. It's, you know, a lot of the kids today wouldn't know what that is, but it's an old police like, like NYPD. What Blue Bloods is today was Hill Street Blues when I was growing up.

So they had some undercover roles and those types of shows and it was always the

draw the sexiness of it, right? Because it was the crazy guy or girl that stood out from all

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