So as a young man I was an atheist because the world evidence to me was like oh there's no magic it's all science and what's in front of your face it's the physical world

So I was always searching so that's how it started and then I eventually became agnostic because I realized how arrogant I was like,

I'm pretty damn arrogant to say there is no God absolutely.

And then about seven years ago, we interviewed Bishop Barron and that interview was real questions for me.

Although I didn't realize what was happening, I was being pulled.

So anyway, for seven years, continuing to search, continue to dabble, meet Arthur Brooks, good friend of mine now,

and that pulled me closer.

Went through some struggles, personal struggles with my marriage

and did the ketamine therapy.

You know, I just kept kind of moving in that direction,

but I never really took the leap of like faith.

God is real, Jesus was real,

he did this for us, never did that,

and then I had a fucking crazy experience.

Wild, bro. Yeah, So when was the last time we did a podcast? It was six years ago. A long time.

It was a long time.

Yeah, it was in the studio was in the gym.

Yeah, we did a little, I mean we did a little mobile setup in the back by the deadlift rack.

Exactly. Yeah. I mean, I like to see, exactly. It's good to see, I mean I like seeing, because at that time you weren't really going

hard with the podcast. No, I was still going hard with just content. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, and it's good to see now, you're just doing great, crushing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's good to see now you're just doing great.

Crushing. Yeah, the podcast stuff. I felt like it was always kind of a part of what I did.

Like obviously the fitness stuff was like the main thing that I like brought people in, the videos always end up me just talking.

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