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How an American Neo-Nazi Was Made

Radio Atlantic

The Atlantic

Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.41.9K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2017

⏱️ 32 minutes

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Summary

Andrew Anglin spent his formative years flirting with hippie progressivism, then tried his hand at becoming a tribal hunter-gatherer. But he only achieved notoriety after he founded the Daily Stormer, the world's biggest website for neo-Nazis. Anglin and his mob of followers have terrorized people around the world, and their influence has been cited by the perpetrators of fatal violence. What lessons should be learned from Anglin's radicalization? And what is society's best response to his ideas? Luke O'Brien and Rosie Gray join Jeff and Matt to discuss these questions, and how far-right extremism is evolving. Links: - "The Making of an American Nazi" (Luke O'Brien, December 2017) - "The Lost Boys" (Angela Nagle, December 2017) - "How 2015 Fueled The Rise Of The Freewheeling, White Nationalist Alt-Movement" (Rosie Gray, BuzzFeed, 12/27/2015) - "Behind the Internet's Anti-Democracy Movement" (Rosie Gray, 2/10/2017) - "The Alt-Right's Rebranding Effort Has Failed" (Rosie Gray, 8/13/2017) - "What Gwen Ifill Knew About Race in America" (Jeffrey Goldberg, 11/18/2016) - "Joan Didion Doesn't Owe the World Anything" (Megan Garber, 10/29/2017) - NoSleep Subreddit | Podcast Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

At the crossroads of artistic insight and intellectual curiosity, we find the edge of reason.

0:07.0

Dive into the heart of artistic inspiration, rooted in Enlightenment thinking, and discover how contemporary creators are holding a mirror up to society to reflect who we are, where we've been, and where we're headed.

0:20.0

Join me, Jeff Chang, at the Edge of Reason, a new limited podcast from Atlantic

0:25.6

Reth, the branded content studio at the Atlantic and Howzer and Worth.

0:29.4

As a young man he tried on a number of identities, anti-racist hippie in suburban Ohio, anti-capitalist

0:37.0

hunter-gatherer in the Philippines, but the identity that made Andrew Anglin notorious

0:41.5

on the internet?

0:42.8

Neo-Nazi.

0:44.9

Is a new generation of dangerous trolls on the rise?

0:48.9

Or are they just now on our radar?

0:51.3

This is Radio Atlantic.

1:08.9

Over there in New York we have my esteemed co-host Jeffrey Goldberg.

1:11.8

Hi Jeff. Hi, Matt. This week we're sitting down with

1:15.6

two journalists who've covered what seems to be a rising tide of extremist voices in the

1:20.8

U.S. Here in DC we've got Rosie Gray, staff writer and White House reporter for the Atlantic who's done a significant amount of reporting on the so-called Alt-Write. Hello, Rosie. Hello. And here with us also this week we have the reporter Luke

1:36.0

O'Brien who wrote the cover story in the December 2017 issue of the Atlantic titled, The Making of an American Nazi.

1:44.7

Hello Luke.

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Hi.

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Thank you for joining us, both of you.

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Luke, your story walks us through the life of a man named Andrew Anglin who went from being a teenage

1:54.2

vegan anti-racist hippie in Columbus Ohio to founding the world's biggest

1:59.7

neo-Nazi website the Daily Stormer. Now start us off Luke by telling us how you first came to hear about

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