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Today, Explained

How America went MAHA

Today, Explained

Vox

Daily News, Politics, News

4.49.5K Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2025

⏱️ 25 minutes

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Summary

RFK Jr. adviser Calley Means explains why so many Americans are suspicious of food and pharma companies, and what the HHS secretary nominee plans to do about it if he's confirmed. This episode was produced by Miles Bryan, edited by Jolie Myers, fact-checked by Laura Bullard and Avishay Artsy, engineered by Andrea Kristinsdottir and Rob Byers, and hosted by Noel King. Transcript at vox.com/today-explained-podcast Support Today, Explained by becoming a Vox Member today: http://www.vox.com/members Robert F. Kennedy Jr., President Trump's nominee for Secretary of Health and Human Services, testifies during his Senate Finance Committee confirmation hearing. Photo by Win McNamee/Getty Images. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Health and Human Services Secretary nominee Robert Fluoride Kennedy, Jr. went before the Senate today in fiery confirmation hearings.

0:10.0

Did you say Lyme disease is a highly, likely, militarily engineered by a weapon?

0:16.0

I probably did say that.

0:18.0

Kennedy makes two big arguments about our health, and the first is deeply divisive.

0:23.3

He is skeptical of vaccines.

0:25.4

Well, I do believe that autism does come from vaccines.

0:30.4

Science disagrees.

0:32.1

The second argument is something that a lot of Americans, regardless of their politics,

0:36.2

have concluded.

0:37.4

He says our food system is serving us garbage, and that garbage is that a lot of Americans, regardless of their politics, have concluded.

0:42.4

He says our food system is serving us garbage, and that garbage is making us sick.

0:47.3

Coming up on today, explained a confidant of Kennedy's, in fact, the man who helped facilitate his introduction to Donald Trump, on what the Make America Healthy Again movement wants.

1:02.0

Thank you. make America Healthy Again movement wants. Amazon Pharmacy Presents. The Painful Thoughts.

1:04.0

The guy in front of me in the pharmacy line

1:08.0

is halfway through an incredibly detailed 17-minute story about his gout,

1:15.0

a story likely more painful than the gout itself.

1:19.3

Next time, save yourself the pain, and let Amazon Pharmacy deliver your meds right to your door.

1:25.0

Amazon Pharmacy, healthcare just got less painful.

1:36.1

You're listening to Today Explained.

1:38.7

Callie Means is an informal advisor to RFK who went viral on Twitter about two years ago with this explosive claim.

1:46.3

Callie had worked as a consultant for Coca-Cola, and he said that he'd witnessed Coke give millions of

1:51.3

dollars to various groups to ensure that sugar taxes failed and that soda was included in food stamp

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