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Hey everybody, it's St. Louis from Veritas. On this week's interview episode, I talk to Stacey

Mitchell. She's the co-director of the Institute for Local Self-Reliance. It's a little think tank-sush

lobbying outfit that does a wide range of things, but Stacey mainly is a fierce critic of Amazon.

Amazon right now in the middle of the pandemic, as you know, has become basically essential

infrastructure. So many people are at home, shopping at home, relying on Amazon to get them

everything from groceries to USB cables to toilet paper if Amazon can get it out in time.

Stacey has long been in credit for Amazon. She's been writing about the company for years.

She's recently profiled in the New York Times is more energy and scrutiny of Amazon ramps up

in the middle of this pandemic as people, politicians, realize how powerful Amazon is,

as workers and warehouses are going on strike, as Amazon response to all that scrutiny is a

little spiky and weird. Stacey's having a moment. I wanted to talk to her for so long. We talk about

the roots of monopoly power. We talk about how if it's possible to regulate a company that people

love so much, whether that's appropriate or a political non-starter, and we really get into

why Stacey thinks economic concentration is a problem for democracy, small D democracy in America.

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