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It's been the most chaos within the FBI that we, that I've seen in my entire career,

and I think historically that we've really seen since Watergate,

there's just this tremendous pressure that the FBI is under and the direct politicization of the FBI itself.

And the deputy choice of Dan Bongino, I think, is definitely another real shakeup for the Bureau.

But, you know, I should say there are definitely components of the

Bureau that are kind of psyched about this because they are supportive of, you know, that sort of

right-wing mission. They just agree with the politics of Cash Patel, of Dan Bongino. There is a

memo very shortly. So let's be clear. They view the institution they're working for and they believe that the institution

that they have been a part of should be shut down and made into a museum, a January 6th museum.

So you know what? To that FBI, just quit the damn job.

Sleuthing. You know, it's one of those things that you don't really think about people who actually try to find out stuff and who's involved and what they did and what their role was

and how that plays into the current narrative plus broader narratives that touch on a big event,

let's say like January 6th. My guest today is Ryan J. Riley. He's the Justice Reporter for NBC News. He's had unparalleled reporting on the capital attack and has been cited by the January 6th committee and the FBI. That's how good his reporting has been. He's put all this together in a new book,

Sedition Hunters, How January 6th broke the justice system.

It is out now.

We have a great conversation.

I know you're going to enjoy.

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