How AI Doctors, Blood Biomarkers + Epigenetics Will Unlock 140-Year Lifespans (Nathan Graville)

Wellness + Wisdom Podcast

Josh Trent

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🗓️ 17 June 2025

⏱️ 104 minutes

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Summary

Wellness + Wisdom | Episode 750

Does AI hold the key to fixing the modern healthcare system that's keeping us sick?

Nathan Graville, CEO + Co-Founder of Geviti, joins Josh Trent on the Wellness + Wisdom Podcast, episode 750, to reveal why “feeling good” and “being healthy” are two very different things, how routine blood tests can expose hidden inflammation before it becomes disease, why reactive care driven by Big Pharma benefits from keeping you sick, and how AI doctors can help you reclaim ownership of your health.

"Within the next 5 years, everybody is going to have an AI doctor in their pocket, and the whole traditional healthcare system is going to be reshaped forever. That's how we make longevity accessible to everybody, and it will be completely normal to live into our 120s, 130s, 140s." - Nathan Graville

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In This Episode, Nathan Graville Uncovers:

[01:05] Feeling Good ≠ Healthy

Nathan Graville
Geviti
Why feeling fine doesn't mean that we are healthy.
How being fit doesn't equal being healthy.
The importance of getting blood tested.
Why doctors usually don't test C-reactive protein.

[05:15] Proactive Health Care

Why proactive care is the only way to achieve true health.
How Big Pharma benefits from us being sick.
What tools can help us measure our health.
How preventative care has become more accessible in the past 10 years.

[08:05] How to Optimize Your Health for Longevity

Why longevity doctors are extremely expensive and hard to find.
How AI makes longevity accessible to everybody.
Why longevity shouldn't be obsessive.
The role of mental health in our lifespan.
How traditional healthcare is going to change with the rise of AI.

[13:30] AI Bias: Can You Really Trust ChatGPT?

How AI is evolving faster than we think.
Why people assume that every output AI provides is accurate.
How AI gives us very convincing responses to things we don't know anything about.
Why the right prompting creates more valid results.
The longer we collect our data with Geviti, the better data it gives us about our health.

[19:05] From Grief to Helping Others

Why Nathan believes his father still exists in a different form after passing.
How Geviti could have saved his father.
Why the pandemic made it difficult to get proper care.
How Nathan created Geviti to honor his father.
Why Nathan changed his opinion on psychotherapy.
How therapy helped him heal through being vulnerable.

[28:10] Modern Health Care Is A Profit-Making Machine

Why the medical system is good at fixing injuries.
How reactive care is highly profitable, and there's an incentive to keep people sick.
Why Make America Healthy Again draws attention to the problems of the healthcare system.
How we shouldn't expect our doctors to own our health.
Why we need to take down Big Pharma.
How Geviti is not profit first, but people first.

[34:45] Are You Living to Work?

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How our bodies respond to nervous system dysregulation.
Why we are misaligned in our priorities, and we live to work.
How Nathan puts God first, family second, and work third.

[39:10] Biological Age Testing

How Josh discovered that his biological age was much younger than his chronological age.
Why getting blood work is the first step, then we need to take action.
How Geviti provides practical tools and a team to support your journey.
Why assessing biological age has changed and there are several different methods.
How biological age testing shows how we're improving our longevity.
Why basic lifestyle changes can decrease our biological age.

[46:35] Methylation + Supplementation

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How Geviti ensures the accuracy of their lab tests.
What labs they're working with for diagnostic solutions.
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How 30-40% of people struggle with methylation.
Why many supplements are not bioavailable and don't absorb into the body.
How supplements are meant to be used for the best effect.
Why supplementation must be data driven.

[54:55] Can You Rely on Technology with Your Health?

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How older generations don't trust technology as much as younger people.
Why we can't hear what our body's telling us it needs.
How Geviti protects their clients' data.
Why technology is a part of human evolution.
How using technology doesn't mean we're going against nature.

[01:00:45] Peptides: Nature's Miracle?

Peptides already exist in our bodies and are completely natural.
How peptides bind to the receptors of our cells and support healing.
Why peptides are a threat to Big Pharma.
How exogenous growth hormones can cause serious health issues.
Why we should only buy peptides from pharmacies.
How research chemical companies produce peptides that can be very harmful.

[01:09:15] The Future of Health

Why Eli Lilly is going against compounding pharmacies.
We need more compounding pharmacies in order to make health products more accessible.
How we can decentralize health information.
Why we could invent cures to all diseases if we established a decentralized database.
How human nature might stop us from creating a new system.

[01:16:20] Trust Your Intuition

Why everyone has access to intuition.
How our intuition gets clouded.
Why people fall for snake oil supplements.
How we can judge a company by their founder.
Why we always have a gut feeling at the beginning that tells us the truth.
How some supplements work for some people but don't work for others.
Why companies don't need to rely on third-party studies anymore.

[01:25:00] Geviti Can Save Your Life + Time

How Geviti has helped people diagnose cancer and cardiovascular disease.
Why Geviti saves us time compared to going to a doctor's office.
The importance of designing products around mothers and busy entrepreneurs.

[01:29:00] AI for Longevity

Why in the future most people will live to be over 100.
How AI will create abundance and make services more accessible.
Why Geviti's costs have gone down since the rise of AI.

[01:33:50] Heal Your Body with Stem Cells

Why stem cell treatments are becoming more popular.
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How Geviti is developing a stem cell product from umbilical cords.
Why MSC stem cells target what needs to be healed.
How one stem cell IV saved a man's life whose liver was failing.
Why peptides and stem cells are going to help us live longer.

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Power Quotes From The Show

Big Pharma Wants You Sick!

"There's incentive to keep people sick because Big Pharmaceutical will profit off of it, and then they'll prescribe the medications and the medications to combat the side effects of their own medications. It's a vicious cycle that's very hard to escape." - Nathan Graville

Peptides + MSCs

"Peptides and MSCs are the future of longevity. These are two therapeutics that will get us to living into our hundreds. When you do a MSC IV, it's going to find out where in your body you need healing and it's going to go to those areas on its own. This is potentially the most powerful therapeutic that we know about in existence as it relates to longevity." - Nathan Graville

Feeling Healthy Doesn't Equal Being Healthy

"There's no way to know if you're healthy based on just how you feel. You can have elevated markers that are directly correlated to all-cause mortality. Which is why looking underneath the hood is so crucially important. The only way to know is by doing a routine blood work." - Nathan Graville

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About Nathan Graville

How AI Doctors, Blood Biomarkers + Epigenetics Will Unlock 140-Year Lifespans (Nathan Graville) Nathan Graville is a tech founder with a passion for designing beautiful products that deliver meaningful value.

His commitment to building technology for positive impact is currently centered on increasing both healthspan and lifespan.

He designs and builds products to enhance user experiences and improve lives, and is fueled by the desire to challenge the status quo and deliver meaningful change to the world.

Nathan is driven by the prospect of bringing impactful projects to life and aims to create positive change on a global scale.

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0:00.0	Within the next five years, everybody is going to have an AI doctor in their pocket.
0:04.0	The whole traditional healthcare system is just going to be reshaped forever.
0:07.0	And that's how we actually make longevity accessible to everybody.
0:10.0	I think you'll live into your 120s, 130s, 140s. I think that'll be completely normal.
0:14.0	And here's why.
0:15.0	Nate Graville is the founder and CEO of Jevity,
0:19.0	which makes high-end data-driven health optimization accessible
0:22.5	worldwide through at-home blood work.
0:25.5	So people think when you look healthy and you might feel healthy, that you're totally healthy.
0:30.3	There's no way to know based on just how you feel. You can have elevated markers that
0:34.6	are directly correlated to all cause mortality, essentially.
0:38.3	There's literally no reason why you shouldn't be doing routine blood work.
0:42.3	There's incentive to keep people sick because big pharmaceutical will profit off of it and then they'll prescribe the medications and
0:49.3	the medications to combat the side effects of their own medications.
0:52.3	And it's just this like vicious cycle that's very, very hard to escape.
0:56.2	Proactive care is the only way.
0:57.6	That is how we take down Big Pharma.
1:00.2	And that starts by basically...
1:05.7	So people think when you look healthy and you might feel healthy, that you're totally
1:10.5	healthy. But how does
1:11.7	this address the elephant in the room, which is real longevity? What's that all about? What got me
1:16.5	into the space was my father and he was one of those people that he felt healthy. He assumed,
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