How a Whistleblower Changed the Course of History

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🗓️ 5 January 2024

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Remembering Daniel Ellsberg; the real team behind "The Post"; & reporting on the horror of war.

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0:00.0	On this week's on the media, the legacy of Daniel Ellsberg and the other truth-tellers of the Vietnam War era.
0:07.0	I've enjoyed reading the papers the last week. I've been reading the truth about the war in the public press and that's like breathing clean air.
0:14.3	McNamara wanted academics to have a chance to examine what had happened.
0:18.1	He would say to us, let the chips fall where they may.
0:20.8	Brave man.
0:21.6	I think guilt was a bigger motivated than courage.
0:25.0	The notion that this was a definitive history is just plain wrong, Brooke, because we didn't
0:30.3	have that kind of access and we never were allowed to do any interviews.
0:35.6	You know it was three in the morning the phone rang I picked it up he said I got a
0:39.2	job offer Vietnam six months do you want to go? I said sure.
0:43.0	Haven't you ever done dumb things for love?
0:45.0	Come on, Brooke. Tell us.
0:46.0	My father had a favorite line from the Bible which I used to hear a great deal
0:50.0	when I was a kid.
0:52.0	The truth shall make you free. What we learned, what we haven't. It's all
0:57.2	coming up after this. From WNYC in New York, this is on the media. I'm Brooke Gladstone. It's been six months since Daniel Ellsberg died.
1:10.0	And in this, our first show of 2024, we want to replay the episode in which we eulogized
1:17.0	him as a friend and a kind of colleague, because Dan has surely been vital to the on the media project.
1:24.0	Really, any project charged with scrutinizing stories told about the world
1:29.0	and distilling the truth from the lies.
1:32.0	Dan Ellsberg knew when to lean in. stealing the truth from the lies.
1:32.5	Dan Ellsberg knew when to lean in and when to leave things behind.
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