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How a virus can threaten democracy

Pod Save the World

Pod Save the World

Politics, News

4.825.5K Ratings

🗓️ 1 April 2020

⏱️ 91 minutes

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Summary

Today’s show is a little different. We skip the update on the spread of the coronavirus itself and instead focus on the impact it’s having on governments and people. For example, 2019 was the year of the protestor, but how do protestors continue if they can’t gather safely or legally? How can we stop leaders from using the coronavirus to consolidate power, stifle the press or jettison privacy protections? And with the news that the virus has temporarily sidelined a US aircraft carrier, how do we refocus defense policy and spending for the future? Then Tommy talks with former US Ambassador to Israel Dan Shapiro about the shocking news that Blue and White Party chief Benny Gantz is forming a coalition with Prime Minister Bibi Netanyahu. And Ben talks with British Labour Party MP David Lammy about the UK’s response to the coronavirus.

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome back to Paz de la World, I'm Tommy Vittor.

0:12.9

I'm Ben Rhodes.

0:14.3

Ben, good to see you all over there in Venice.

0:16.8

We have a very cool show for listeners today that spans multiple time zones and even multiple

0:22.0

continents that I'm excited about.

0:24.0

So the news portion of the show will be a little different.

0:26.6

We're going to skip the morbid coronavirus cases, death toll update because you can find

0:31.9

that in a lot of places.

0:33.7

Instead, we're going to focus on a lot of these coronavirus adjacent issues you're seeing

0:38.2

around the globe.

0:39.2

So for example, like 2019 was the year of the protester.

0:42.9

How do you keep up that momentum if you can't gather safely or in some cases legally?

0:49.4

What can we do about autocrats using the coronavirus to consolidate power and stifle

0:53.4

the press or even what do we do about our European allies who seem to be eagerly tossing aside

1:00.7

hard fought for online data privacy protections?

1:03.4

We'll also talk about how this virus is at least temporarily defeating traditional symbols

1:09.4

of American military might like aircraft carriers.

1:12.9

And then we have two interviews.

1:14.2

So I checked in with former US ambassador, Israel Dan Shapiro about the shocking news that

1:19.6

Blue and White Party chief Benny Gantz is going to form a coalition with Prime Minister

1:23.8

Beebe Netanyahu.

1:25.4

And then Ben, you just got off the phone with British Labour Party MP David Lamy.

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