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How a Vigilante Botanist Became a Cult Icon

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Outside Podcast

Wilderness, Sports

4.32.2K Ratings

🗓️ 16 March 2022

⏱️ 21 minutes

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Summary

An ex-punk and former train engineer who is self-taught in the sciences, Joey Santore does not fit the mold of the stereotypical botanist. He has lots of tattoos and no college degree and is known for illegal tree-planting projects. Then there’s his voice: a native Chicagoan, he can sound like he’s on an SNL skit about Da Bears. Maybe all this explains why his YouTube channel, Crime Pays But Botany Doesn't, has more than a quarter-million subscribers. We join Santore on a peyote hunt in the South Texas scrublands to try to understand how he’s getting so many different kinds of people to geek out on plants.

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0:00.0

From Outside Magazine, this is the Outside Podcast.

0:10.6

I don't know why you're taking it kind of stanced with me.

0:17.8

All right, I'm not trying to harass you.

0:20.1

I just don't think what you're doing is the safe behavior.

0:23.0

I think it's kind of risky, okay?

0:25.9

Allow me to introduce you to Joey Santor.

0:28.8

Joey is standing in the middle of a road in Central California, filming with his phone

0:33.6

as he has a heart to heart with a very distressed looking Northern Pacific rattlesnake.

0:39.0

All right, I thought you was a go for a snake at first.

0:42.0

You're obviously a Norpeck, okay?

0:44.9

Don't you dare rattle that fucking thing at me.

0:47.2

Listen to me, I don't want to hear it, okay?

0:50.1

No, it's not like that, all right?

0:52.5

We're keeping it civil, okay?

0:54.2

You got to get out of the road.

0:55.7

Being a stick that does not seem nearly long enough to me, Joey hurts the snake out

1:00.9

of harm's way as it flicks its tongue ominously.

1:04.6

Seeming to tolerate just barely this loud swearing man trying to save it.

1:10.6

Being an important member of the natural ecosystem, you don't want to see them get smacked.

1:18.2

Let's say a croneless or a gainess of Norpeck, I believe, Northern Pacific rattlesnake.

1:24.7

I think it is, buddy, sorry.

1:28.8

This video went viral when Joey posted it back in 2019, but venomous snakes are not his

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