It's the Brian Larraichow on WNC.

Good morning everyone.

We have Jeffrey Goldberg, editor and chief of the Atlantic with us,

to do kind of double duty today.

We'll talk about what might be a dramatic turning point in the Biden administration's relationship

to the Israel-Hamass war.

We'll place sound bites of Vice President Harris and Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin,

who are both now being openly critical of the way Israel is

fighting in Gaza killing so many thousands of civilians. How important is this

turn and how might it affect the short and long-term outcomes of this intractable

conflict. Jeffrey has deep experience in the region including serving in the

Israeli Defense Forces and being a columnist for the Jerusalem Post and Middle East columnist for the

Washington Post will also touch on the Russia-Ukraine war which Jeffrey has

written about and which the world forgets about at its peril with Israel Hamas so difficult to look away from.

But I said double duty because Jeffrey Goldberg, as editor of the Atlantic, will also take us

inside the new special issue of the magazine. Notably it's the January, February 2024

issue that contains 24 essays by 24 writers about 24 things that might happen if Donald Trump is reelected president in

2024. So let's dive right in. Jeffrey we always learn things when you come on

the show. Thanks for making this one of your

stops about the special issue and for talking about the news as well. Welcome back

to WNYC. Thanks, thanks for having me. And I'll give you the courtesy of

talking about the special issue first in some detail, but let's

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